"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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how can women go from hot to cold

Atldude

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so i know this one girl and we had been talking and she admitted she liked me... and i told her that there was potential...

anyways so she calls me first and then we talk.. and then she complains about me not calling her.. so i call her... and then i also chat with her online as well... and then she doesn't respond... and then i text her and she says she's gonna call me.. and then she ims me and then she says she's gonna brb and then apologizes for running off and by this time i have also leftt..

and then i text her and she texts me back...

and then i call her and ask her if she's been avoiding me.. and she says no.. that now i know what it's like.. cause i kinda ignored her initially cause i was really busy...

so wtf is going on here... ? i think i am dead meat.. just move on?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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so i know this one girl and we had been talking and she admitted she liked me... and i told her that there was potential...
umm...was that your responds to her saying she liked you??

that now i know what it's like.. cause i kinda ignored her initially cause i was really busy...
she could be returning the favor, or she does not want to seem to available to you..
 

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girl with mixed signals

i told her "i also kinda sorta like her"... i was very direct about it...
 

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another fcuk up

the other thing that i did was to tell her i don't understand women, and when i asked her "are you trying to avoid me... cause that's cool too"... douchebag move?

take care,

tariq
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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what;s going on

so i was going to visit my cousin who is in the same city as this chic... and i ask her if she's gonna be around.. and she says yeah and SHE says we should get coffee/dinner...

shoud i or is she playing me like a fiddle.. or is she keeping me around as a backup or is she really interested...

this will be our second face-face meeting as the first one was at a wedding...

what do y'all thnk?
 

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Five things:

1. Don't tolerate crap from this girl.
2. If you're willing to still date this b1tch, ignore her and see if she comes back. Then be more smooth the next time her interest level is high.
3. Don't chat online with chicks. AIM is for women, not men.
4. Don't chat at all with this girl except to warm her up for 1-2 minutes and then set up an in-person encounter (eg: a date).
5. Read the DJ Bible, n00b. (Link at the bottom of the page.)
 

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oh yeah, and #6 -- Women are flaky. Get over it. Don't ever expect a girl to keep on "liking you" just because she said so in one moment. You have to keep on thrilling her or she'll move on. The way you thrill her is by acting like a man. Read the Book of Pook if you don't know what a man is.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Women do change like Michigan weather. Their interest in sex in general can vary wildly from one day to the next.

It's false to assume it's something you did or said. It could just be what part of the roller-coaster she's on that day (or even hour).
 

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When she complained about you not calling her you should have used that as a way to play with her... She did that because she was seeing if you would ACTUALLY call her and you did... Next time, tell her no u call me or mess with her... Ignore her over aim too throw the brb's back at her
 

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Ive been her before....I have experience

Man oh man.....the same thing happened to me.....She is probably seeing if You are going to jump through her hoops like other guys...she is testing ur persona...to really see if ur a wimp(pushover) like the other guys shes dated...!

" This is her way to see if ur the right guy"

She is making u jump through rings of fire like a circus monkey....

Just chill get ur **** together calm your ass down...See it from another perspective!

Do u punish her for bad behavior?(time-of...taking back wat u said..no compliments)

Girls are like chameleons tehy can camouflage at moments notice....they can hide their emotions whenever they want...Its nothing new..they are really great actors....We as guys dont understand this concept cuz we cant change from being happy to be ****ing mad in a second.....They have that ability never question it .why? shes like this...she will just answer? What do u mean?...

...the same test happened with a broad...I used to date.....She would be havion a great ****ing time the next second turn psycho ***** in front of me I would just be chill about it i started seeing patterns between the girlz I used to date....

The second time Her friend tried to run the same **** but not as good so I said...Do it again YOu lOok sexY when ur pouty like that.....She went like like? what?
 

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It's pretty well known that when a chick says brb and doesn't come back in like a minute or two (literally) she probably just wanted to get out of the conversation.

In fact, there is even a facebook group dedicated to this called something like "brb i'm not really going anywhere but neither is this conversation". I guess its easier for them to say brb because most people cannot argue with that where as if they said ttyl or gtg and stayed online you'd get mad cause clearly they haven't left.
 

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strategy

so since i am going to the city where she lives... i am going to schedule something with her... and then I'll cancel to see how she takes it...

what do you guys think?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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So you are going to go from hot to cold to raise her interest? I guess that answers the question in the thread title.
 

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does it work both ways? and/ or will it lead to endless games... belch.
 

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I'm still fairly new to the whole DJ mentality as well. Had a Hell of a time last weekend -- 100 cold-approaches in 3 days, YEAAAHHH BUDDY.

I was shot down/brushed off by about 60% of them -- who cares about them anyway? The 30-40% that took a moment to talk to me either A)joined up with myself and my friends later or B) were at least very polite about not wanting go out, not being interested, having a boyfriend, etc.

Am I smooth? NO! Did I have fun and love every minute of doing it? YES! Did I k-close or f-close them all? Of course not.

But I learned a lot over those couple days.

1) They don't want to know me? Fine, their loss. Those that do know me love and, and there is a fierce mutual loyalty and respect.

2) I can talk to almost any woman in the world for at least 2 minutes no matter how hot or beautiful they are.

3) No matter how hot that girl is, there is a hotter one you're about to meet.

4) Ask yourself this: what does . Mshe have to offer me? Entertainment for the next 30 seconds, crazy sex, a fun time, witty conversation?

5) You have to play the game to win the game.


Being a DJ, in my mind, is about self-assuredness, calmness, discipline, and drive. It's about maximizing my own realized potential.

Anyway, a bit off-topic... getting back on topic!

Women may go from hot to cold in an instant. It may be real -- maybe they have some place to be with someone they greatly respect or care about. Maybe they aren't interested in you. Maybe they have a short attention span. Maybe it's a $#!+ test. Oh well. If it's someone I find fairly interesting, I have decided I will ping (search for it) them a few times over X months to see where it goes.

I've still got a long way to go and a lot to learn... but that's the great thing -- I'll never be as good as I am going to be! Always be in the process of becoming more than you are.
 
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