Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
There is a way.youngmack said:How can one be good with women if your not that attractive?
SgtSplacker said:Women are above all very visual consumers. You have to think of yourself like a product you are selling to her. You may not be perfect, but if you are short somewhere try to make it up somewhere else or find a girl with lower self esteem. These attributes can be ranked using a 10 point scale 1-10.
Mens Primary Attributes:
Looks
Money
Charm & Confidence
vs.
Womens Primary Attributes
Looks
Sexuality
Intelligence & Attitude
These attributes are completely subjective meaning a girl can be gorgeous but having a super low self esteem would then be seen with a much more scrubby guy than she deserves thinking she hit the jackpot.
This is why it's so important to neg girls.
it's so important to neg girls.
neg girls.
The original question: "How can one be good with women if your not that attractive?"
The answer: There are things you can do to level the playing field. If your lazy about it then all you can expect to get are girls in your same grouping (if your lucky). If you really start to honestly work on your shortcomings and get into these girls heads you can nail anything you want.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Why even get a hot woman? isn't it just young boys pop culture that says to date the hottest girl out there?MasterFuu said:I have seen all kinds of man attracting hot woman. One of my buddies bald, short , fat and not rich guy with a wild personality and confidence married a model thats taller then him. I've seen this type of thing many times. As long as you are confident as who you are chicks will gravitate towards you. Also it's a numbers game. Talk to ten chicks and I bet that at least one will date you.
It's not how tall you are or big you are but how tall or big you THINK you are.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
David DeAngelo said "Women are VERY different from men when it comes to ATTRACTION.floydb25 said:To the guys saying looks don't matter - as it relates to their lack of success: looks only get you in the door. You cant rely on them alone, and you can still get rejected quickly. But, they give you a huge advantage, and get you in that door in the first place. After that, you need other things to keep them interested.
What looks do is provide more opportunities. So, you'll get looks, compliments, dates, and sexual advances from women, which builds your confidence and helps with self-esteem. You'll also be welcomed into most crowds with ease, which improves social skills, reduces shyness, etc. More doors open, and you'll naturally become better at all these things - to the point of being second nature - which makes you more attractive, and thus, more successful.
Looks just lay the ground work to build the whole package. It's not a free pass to getting laid constantly. This also depends on how good looking you are, as there are varying degrees. You can be handsome, cute, doable, good looking, or whatever, and still not have much success. Not none, but not a lot, either. Decent looking guys still get offers. But if you're a pretty boy - women pretty much flock to you. There isn't much you have to do at all. That also plays a role. Are you gorgeous, or just good looking? The difference (and results) are huge.
Social skills can't be underestimated, either. You should naturally be a cool, friendly person that is highly likeable. Not for social status, but just as someone people like being around. Women are people too. They like being around cool, fun, exciting, light-hearted guys. Since all they do is talk - you should be a good conversationalist.
A lot of people just need to get out and socialize. Not just with women - in a fake manner, in an attempt to pick them up. Become good with people, and they will like you. Women come naturally once you become social, fun, interesting, etc. And you have a better life overall.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Ihateinitiatingalot7 said:David DeAngelo said "Women are VERY different from men when it comes to ATTRACTION.
You need to accept this fact, and deal with it.
When a man sees a beautiful, young, sexy woman, he INSTANTLY feels a sexual attraction.
But does the same apply for women?
Do women feel sexual attraction to men based mostly on looks? Or is something else going on?
Well, after studying this topic for over five full years now, I can tell you that women usually have their "attraction mechanisms" triggered by things OTHER than looks."
is he right or not?
Why this is I don't know. I have never had sex etc and this is one of things I fear...her friends...more than her. Its already established what she AND her friends are looking for, the classic handsome guy, and they'll probably gang up or act condescending towards you if you're not in the top grade. I have been made to feel like an outcast, it is the way I am. This is why it is so easy to make generalizations and blame them on mass for feeling the way you do about your shortcomings, so I stopped caring what she/they think.Atom Smasher said:Here's another point...
She's evaluating your looks on what her friends will think of you more than how you look to her. If you don't look so hot it reflects badly on her with her friends.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.