"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How can I turn this into something?

amnbyrd

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Ok long story short I was bored last night so I got on myspace where I started talking to this girl in town that accepted a friend request and responded to my message. We started talking and we talked for like 3-4 hours til she fell asleep. I basically got her whole love life told to me-she said shes only dated 2 guys and is has just recently broken up with this guy. So she said shes done with guys for a while. Well Later on today she messaged me and we talked for a while til she had to go. How can I turn this into something I mean shes made it clear that she wants a break from dating since the last guy lied and crap to her.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Ask her for her phone number. Cut down the "chatting". Talk to her in person now.

Talk a few times to her on the phone. Let her know a little bit of how your personality is on the phone. Ask her questions about life, love, the futrue, and wht she likes to do. Find out about her and who she really is.
After a few conversations, not too many, ask her to join you for coffee somewhere.
 

YoungSir4sho

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Listen Man,she'sinterested In U. Dont Beleive Dat Crap She's Sayin Bout She's Not Interested In Datin No More. U Have To B Da Aggressive One. Ask Fo Her Numba. Say Dis, How Bout I Get Ur Numba We Can Talk N Get To Kno Each Otha Betta. N Hopefully We Can See Each Otha Soon. Jus Say Dat Iight. Also If It Goes Good When U Talk To Her On Da Phone Den See Her Da Next Time U Both Are Available. Holla Early
 

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talking for 2 or 3 hours at a time is going to put you in the friend zone with the quickness!!!

phone conversations should be for making plans only, and shouldn't last more than 5 minutes or so

you have to meet her in person to make anything happen!
 

amnbyrd

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So despite what shes said I should say fcuk it and go straight for the number? Alright I guess I will.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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YoungSir4sho

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Yea N Dat Person Above U Bout Sayin Nuttin Can Happen B4 U See Her. I Dont Kno Wat Kind Of Limited Belief U Ppl Are On. But Wit Me, When I Get An Online Numba N We Talk On Da Phone. If We Connect, We Talk Fo A Few Hours N I Actually Get Wit Dem Da Same Nite Or Next Nite We Talk. Simple As Dat, Den When I See Dem, Its Eitha A Date Or We Beat. Simple As Dat. Seriously Its Not Really Dat Hard Ya Dig
 

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amnbyrd said:
So despite what shes said I should say fcuk it and go straight for the number? Alright I guess I will.
so wait, you didn't even get her #?

bro, if she just wants to chat on the internet with you, and says she doensnt want to date, and won't give you her #

why are you wasting your time?

at the same time.............she might not want to give her number out to some strange guy who was home one night and just emailed her randomly, that's kinda weird.

go meet some girls in person
 

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I havent asked for the number yet-I mean it seemed like bad timing considering she just told me she got screwed over and was done with guys for a while. But yea I am gonna go for it-if I dont get it or if I get sum excuse then yea fcuk it.
 
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