cpddavis
Don Juan
Actually one of the least stupid questions on here.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
This i believe in from experiance.cpddavis said:Another thing to add - kissing is like a microcosm of sexual chemistry. Some girls you have great kisses with, and you are both on the same page - sometimes its just weird, awkward and discomforting and not neccessarily because one of you is a bad kisser.
i find the statement:cpddavis said:Heh, kissing is way more subjective than sex. I've never been called a bad lover but some girls have said I'm an awkward kisser.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
That's my whole point - I don't think I am, but on a few occasions they've seen it that way, never mind that it might be THEM and not me - or both of us. Not a huge deal either way.jonwon said:i find the statement:
Your an awkward kisser
Very odd.
It takes two to kiss.
that sounds like a good comeback actually if she did come out with some childish stuff.
i find most women dont and will try again later, granted there are exeptions.
practice makes perfectMacAvoy said:How can I improve my kissing game?
I will add more...you can mess up when you first have sex with her. Heck, you can mess it up the second time you have sex with her...and because of that kiss...she will see both instances as flukes.azanon said:He's absolutely right. If I have to pick the exact moment I seduced, with inevitability, that I would get sex with a given women the most frequent number of times, it was with my kiss.
If you pull off the kiss right, you are "in"; the shows over. And when you pull this off the right way, you can just tell that you "have her" without her having to even say a word. I presume what happens in their mind is they think "holy s***, this kiss is so GD yummy, I just have to try the rest of him."
So you are wise to learn a deadly technique for you, (OP).
And let me add more to this. Sometimes you can even get the f*** right too, and when (if) they comment and recollect to you a day or two later with you in private, they'll most likely bring up the kiss over the f***!Latinoman said:I will add more...you can mess up when you first have sex with her. Heck, you can mess it up the second time you have sex with her...and because of that kiss...she will see both instances as flukes.
I have been great with most of the women I've been involved. But there a couple that I messed up the very first time I had sex with them for a number of reasons such as timing or location. And I still drove them crazy as they came coming for me and I was able to take care of business. They view both instances as flukes. The "he must be off today...a man that kiss that good must certainly fvck good too". Now, if I was a terrible kisser...no second chance!
Kiss is VERY important.
Exactly..the power of the kiss, you get that hot passionate kissing down, and you are the champ in her eyes. I believe, kissing, is that powerful. It will set you apart, make you stand out.azanon said:And let me add more to this. Sometimes you can even get the f*** right too, and when (if) they comment and recollect to you a day or two later with you in private, they'll most likely bring up the kiss over the f***!
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Absolutely! They talk days LATER about the kiss or our lips our both! Even if you manage to give them multiple orgasms.azanon said:And let me add more to this. Sometimes you can even get the f*** right too, and when (if) they comment and recollect to you a day or two later with you in private, they'll most likely bring up the kiss over the f***!
hmm thats some pretty good insight. I like that.realsmoothie said:2) I was talking to a girl at the bar the other day, she was whining about her ex's lousy kissing. I asked what the problem was... she said that it always felt like he wasn't kissing to kiss, he was kissing to get to the next stage.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.