he went out with a girl who's pretty cute(i'd rate her an 8 on my scale but as we all know everyones scale is different). anyways he likes her, she doesn't like him but think he's a nice guy. honestly i think she only went out with him for the reason i'm about to mention. here's where i feel bad for him. the HB8 says that since he's such a nice guy she thinks he'd be perfect for her friend, so she tries to set them up. you can see where this is going.lol her friend is a dog, i'm sorry for putting it that way but it's true, she's just u-g-l-y. he's not interested in the slightest bit but he feels like he owes it to the HB8 to go out with her friend for some ungodly reason. i told him he doesn't owe her a damn thing but i can't seem to convince him otherwise. in his mind he must be thinking if he goes on a date with this ugly that the HB8 will change her mind about him. he doesn't want to hurt the HB8's feelings he says.lol help me help my friend! if it were me and this girl tried to pull the switch-er-oo on me i'd tell her to go to h*ll fast and if she thinks that ugly friend of hers is in my league she's sadly mistaken. that's just me though. any suggestions?
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
how can I help my friend?
- Thread starter Robert28
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Exhumed
Senior Don Juan
Most people don't want to be helped, your friend is doomed to a life of mediocrity.
1 Bad Dude
Don Juan
Yeah. Pretty much what exhumed said. However, try this:
"You will NEVER get to fvck hb8 if you go out with her friend. She approached you for the purpose of roping you into her friend. If you go along with it you are forever going to be a chump in her eyes. PERIOD. Why? Because hb8 believes her friend is beneath her and you going out with UG will solidify you as being beneath her as well."
Maybe that'll work.
"You will NEVER get to fvck hb8 if you go out with her friend. She approached you for the purpose of roping you into her friend. If you go along with it you are forever going to be a chump in her eyes. PERIOD. Why? Because hb8 believes her friend is beneath her and you going out with UG will solidify you as being beneath her as well."
Maybe that'll work.
1 Bad Dude said:
THIS !!!
I would go even further: "You will NEVER EVER fvck hb8, because she's trying to hook you up with a UG, BRO, a UG. Do you really wanna that in your life ? Don't you think she would wanna keep you for herself if she really want it you? Listen, your only chance (and it's a small one) of going out with HB8 is to cut contact and check out some another chicks.''