"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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How Can I Get my Ex-Girlfriend Back (HELP!)

Cabal

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This guy has actually declared in another post that calling him on acting like a douche is trying to overcompensate for being stabbed.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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HeyPachuco!

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Update:

Anyway, we spoke tonight (my ex) as I mentioned in the previous update, and she has complied with seeing me again on certain conditions.

We've agreed to take it slow and see eachother based on the agreement we made.

Will update as mentioned.

Peace!
 

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ScottMustaine said:
A girl ? Well, why don't you seduce me if you are that good player ? ;)
Scott, maybe if you could get it up properly, your girl wouldnt be getting railed by other dudes.

scottMustaine said:
Basically I want her to get butthurt and feel "OH ****, WHAT HAVE I DONE?"
Lol sure, you're really showing me, your mature bud
 

HeyPachuco!

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ScottMustaine said:
Haha man, you're so much lowering yourself down. I'm freaking laughing my arse off.

So yeah, was that supposed to make me angry? Because it made me laugh. :D

Oh by the way, you failed with the second quote.
Kid, I'm not even going to waste my time with you anymore.

You win the pissing contest. Night.
 

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Your gf is weak.. she shouldn't of came back.. At least not this fast.. You will only treat her like sh!t again when the routine starts kicking back in.. She should of left you single for 3-4 months to make you appreciate what you had.. instead she isn't as strong as she thought she was.. Both of you are pathetic. That's why I get sick of coming on this site and seeing this kind of stuff..
 

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Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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HeyPachuco!

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headFirst said:
Your gf is weak.. she shouldn't of came back.. At least not this fast.. You will only treat her like sh!t again when the routine starts kicking back in.. She should of left you single for 3-4 months to make you appreciate what you had.. instead she isn't as strong as she thought she was.. Both of you are pathetic. That's why I get sick of coming on this site and seeing this kind of stuff..
I'm not sure you realize how "conditional" and challenging this unofficial shaky arrangement is though. Her emotions are as mixed as a pick and mix sweet bag. We can very well see eachother on this "arrangement", then her come out and say she's not interested in furthering it anymore and my efforts will have been in vain - For what it's worth, she has already stated that she has been "happy being out of a relationship" and getting on with her life. It's just that when she speaks to me, she suddenly breaks down - Which tells me that there is still a way to amend this.

I'm not looking at it from a perspective of being mistreated, made to grovel or being hard-done-by by her final decisions. I'm looking at it as a challenge. Hell, maybe she'll start seeing some other guy just to fvck with our arrangement. Thats why I say this is a very conditional event between us. What can I say? Don't see that guy? I'm not her "boyfriend".

I can't say anything about it because we're technically NOT an item anymore. She's agreed to see me on a one-day per week "platonic" meet-up, but thats it. How she will honour this unofficial agreement is questionable.

Now, I know, as she has already started doing, making a myriad of schedules to be busy or just generally making herself unavailable to show me her "disdain and indepedence"

We were meant to meet this week, but she's busy. So she agreed to meeting up sometime next week, but we'll see.

Above all else, there are many conditions here and it's not as easy as it seems.
 

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Well if it works out you better not go back to your old ways.. take it from me man.. I made a few minor mistakes and one bad one not nearly as bad as yours and I lost the girl forever..

Being enslaved and left putting the pieces together in your own mind but never truly knowing the correct answer is misery and punishment at it's best.

I've just met someone new myself.. I'm still trying to move on... Because I'm not allowed to go backwards (I don't even have a choice). So be thankfully you are not in my shoes.. and appreciate that you still have her in your life.

pz.
 

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I dont even know.
 

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ScottMustaine said:
Friendzone incoming ! Head for cover !
Lol what do you take me for, didn't I tell you I was hired (headhunted) into an exclusive pua company for over a year? I mean, what planet are you living on? I wasn't a sucker with girls or persmission-boy, like you or other guys here before I even signed up. Without a doubt, I'll be turning up large amounts of heat at these meet-ups.

The fact that she is still allowing the meet ups on her end shows me that she still cannot let-go, other girls would've ran a mile by now. Dude, I've been with a grip of women. From your posting history, aren't you still in high school? Arguing with you is like a bodybuilder beating up a retarded kid, just in this case, the retarded kid wants to grow up to be a bodybuilder and calls people out out of nowhere. Take it as a brag if you want, but I've seen it all and done it all. Just lolz at Friendzone. I've never been in "the zone". EVER.

I said we're not friends, not like that anyhow - she said "okay, we're just cool" Like I know my girl dude, ofcourse she may try to act reserved on outings just to see if I want to bang her to get her sucked in that way, but I'm not going to "try" and do that straight away, I'll remain calm, turn up the heat for alittle while, then bang her brains out. Bets on this not happening?



Flakiness, she's turning the table, now you're getting stringed along and she wants to see how pathetic you can be to get her back. She's playing with you now.
Wow. You really are just a little 18-year-old hater. You had me convinced you were a good guy, but you're not only a dweeb nice guy, you're also a pathetic introvert with a hella of a lot of demons, lets call you scott bates.

Heh. She doesn't come out this week? Fine. I have my own set of rules with this. The whle agreement was to meet up once a week, if she hasn't come out more than over a week, then I'm calling her out on it. Anything that crosses the line and looks like relegation to me, it's a call out.

Nice try trying to raise uneccesary anxiety, like, what were you thinking as you wrote that? Did you think "HeyPachuco, behind his computer will feel anxiety and worried about what I write, I mean, I don't know this guy has swag, but let me just be a little fvckboy"?
 

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this needs to be locked.....seriously. Stop fighting for gods sake, the OP is going to do whatever he wants in the end regardless of the advice he finds/is given here. Who gives a fvck.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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You are oneitis AFC wrapped in players flag sunshine.
 

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Cabal said:
You are oneitis AFC wrapped in players flag sunshine.
Really? Coming from the guy who was contemplating taking back or even, asking for advice about a girl who was trash and slept with his brother? I, OTOH, actually have other women circulating.

It's why the relationship was in shatters in the first place, you imbecile. Do people still use Mystery Method's out-dated acronym these days? AFC? Lmao. I don't know man, do you think like these comments effect me in any way? How do you think I'll react to that behind here? Knowing, from my reference experiences that I've been in many beds and bedsheets with a grip of women? I'd love to know the psychology behind all your out of place, left field hate-filled digs?

Please talk normally, were you this lippy when you were getting cut up? Think about it Cabal, you can't even keep your mouth shut when your getting beaten up.

If I was average then why is my girl still in the pipes whilst yours left you and decided to screw the guy that hit you with an icepick?

But keep making your punchlines even more and more fancy. So, before you even finish your food. Think it out long and hard, whilst cleaning your wound.
 

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ScottMustaine said:
Don't get me wrong dude, but what are you trying to do?
How about no.

I came in here (after nearly 2 years prior) to get advice about my dilemma with a woman I spent over a year with. You and Mr Accident & Emergency (otherwise known as Cabal) over there, decided to speak above your stations, with unwarranted berating and outdated epitaphs - And now you've transformed into this cheerleading councellor for him.

Have you noticed that you're the only two I've been tussling with in this forum to date?

Okay I'm stopping right here. No more talking to you Mister... Whatever.
You said this in another thread, twice. Yet you're back AGAIN. Even when I ignored your previous post in this thread? How you cannot see that you're inferior to me is outrageous.

Prove us that you got loads of women circulating and that you are PUA Casanova dude, or that you need help from us ?
No. I don't need to prove anything to YOU, a highschooler or anyone else on this board. Take whatever I say about my career options as boasting or not. I couldn't give an iota of a fck. I did not ask YOU, specifically for help. You took it upon yourself to trap the thread off course aswell as that other sorry excuse for a man, Cabal. I will take blame for entertaining it too, but it's qute cute hearing screwlooses telling you, you need psychological help to make themselves feel better and to have the freedom to act the way they should've acted when faced in danger.

I mean seriously. Why are you trying to put that much effort when,as a PUA, you know that if you found that kind of girl, you will find such one,even better next time
You mean seriously what? Whats serious?...You can't stick to your own words, so nothing you say is serious. It hasn't been since you started replying in here.

I'm not a "pua", I was with a "pua" centered company yes, but that doesn't mean I'm orthodox. I'll break and have broken many conventional "rules". I'm trying to right a wrong, if that makes me an "AFC" who suffers with oneitis on paper, who cares. But in hindsight, my dilemma occured because I was seeing other women.

It'll be a complete different story if I was stuck with this girl, and she treated me the way I treated her. So go ahead and try to use your online shaming tactics and call me out about my "pua" feats......In the end, it really amounts to hot air.

Why don't try to know better those 'other' women that are circulating ?
Didn't I tell you I'm righting my wrongs with this girl, yes we all find other people as time goes on. But unlike some, I'm not the type of guy to buckle down and say "Thats it....." I did with all of my last relationships, but I want to fight the good fight with this one and if in the end, we really can't be together, I'm reassured that I will find another girl, who will be hotter and more exciting. For now, I'll see what I can do with this one....I'm not counting points.
 

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You, on the other hand Douche', are your own cheerleader. Every single time someone tells you something you don't want to hear (like, it's your fault, not hers, which is true) you put on your cyber pom poms and jump up and down ranting about how you are a PUA master, everyone else is a loser, and throwing LOL at the start of any comeback because on some level you know you're a joke. Get a grip son.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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