How big do you think the community is now?

[Ricky]

With all the publicity, I was wondering how big you think the community is now?

I remember a few years ago when Sosuave only had about 10,000 members, now we are well over 24,000 (although some have left, or some have more than one name). Mysterys forum is over 30,000. I forget how many subscribers Neil Strauss had or has to his list. I know the Game had already sold over 200,000.

I'm guessing with all the publicity between the various camps well over a million people have heard about it. I still think the number of serious active people in lairs and running game is low, and maybe less than 100,000 worldwide. A movie and some more TV shows will certainly boost it for a while. As even in my case many of us stay in the game or active in this for several years (at least all the years we are sarging before we finally settle down)

In any event ours is a world of abundance. While I didn't necessarily like the idea of extra competition, we live in a world in which competition is necessary in every area of life.

The best way to improve is to align with a number of friends and work daily to do things to improve yourself.

 

[T Square]

Hard to say...yes the community is getting bigger and getting more attention. I don't think that it's anything to be concerned about though. As DJ's we have dynamic real game, not scripted routines, so we don't need to worry about our "lines" becoming mainstream like all those PUA robots do. ("Who lies more...")

Plus a lot of men out there are too AFC to give DJ-ism or PUA-ism any serious consideration. They're still plugged into the matrix and see what we do as "manipulative," "creepy," or "trying too hard." These are the critics that will never really understand what we're about. They'll live their lives in frustration as they desperately try to woo women into liking them with boxes of chocolates and roses.

And then there are guys that just don't have the motivation to really improve themselves. Change takes courage and few people have the bravery to set aside their past habits and abandon their faulty beliefs to really change on a fundamental level.

Yes, we may go mainstream, but most people will still be close-minded and lazy.

 

[aftershock]

I thought about this a while ago.

I'd say that there are plenty who know about it yet less that can actually impliment it.

 

[sparky0000]

Plus a lot of men out there are too AFC to give DJ-ism or PUA-ism any serious consideration. They're still plugged into the matrix and see what we do as "manipulative," "creepy," or "trying too hard." These are the critics that will never really understand what we're about. They'll live their lives in frustration as they desperately try to woo women into liking them with boxes of chocolates and roses.

And then there are guys that just don't have the motivation to really improve themselves. Change takes courage and few people have the bravery to set aside their past habits and abandon their faulty beliefs to really change on a fundamental level.

Yes, we may go mainstream, but most people will still be close-minded and lazy.

boxes of chocolates and roses those are my favorite things to give to a girl. i always give roses to girls (odd number only of course). it seems to be expected in the cis/baltic states that you give a girl roses. dark chocolate always makes a great gift as well. laime dark chocolate is always tasty, as is cafe tasse dark chocolate (exotic choice for most of the girls). sometimes if i am going to pick the girl up at her apartment i take some chocolate for her mother and grandmother (i have yet to meet a girl who doesn't live with both).

yes, you boys do try much too hard for what you are getting. funny how the earth's most beautiful girls might actually desire you if you showed up and treated them with a bit of respect.

are you guys creepy. oh yes you are. i have seen pictures of some of the "don juan" dudes who write books about what you are trying to do. talk about giving me the creeps.

 

[Distant Light]

Its getting more known and mainstream but there aren't many people are actually getting real good. There are probably less than 500 PUAs that are actually real good. Then maybe about 100,000 others who are pretty good, everyone else is just success here and there. Most people aren't willing to put there personality on the line so they never actually get any better.

 

[Mr. Unique]

There are over 270 million people living In the U.S alone, who cares.

 

[DJDamage]

Most people are lazy anyway that is what got them to become an AFC in the first place. That is why most people will reject the DJ philosophy because it takes time and effort to achieve it. Most people will go to PUA websites beacuse those gurus advocate a simple generic gimic to
get laid like a fast food resturant - it will get you a hot meal in less then 5 mins but in the end of the day you will still be a slobbering fat ass.

 

[Jariel]

I agree with DJDamage. I think the seduction community has tens of thousands of followers, yet majority of them have been sold on the quick fix idea.

I reckon many people who bought "The Game" did so because they thought it would help their success with women later that same month. I bet there were a lot of disappointed men.

It took me over a year before this DJ stuff started making sense in a natural way and another year to lean how to apply it and benefit from it. Even though it says Master Don Juan under my name, I still keep my mind open and still consider myself as continuing my journey.

I would guess that most people who are part of the community are no more informed than the average guy.