"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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CrunchyNut

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Firstly, Im new here (long time reader, first post), so HI! A little bit about me. Im 20, fairly good looking when I try, although admittedly I dont normally dress up particularly well for an average day. Im at a decent university (in England), and am doing well in my course. I do a lot of sport regularly, am in teams, go to the gym 5 times a week (3 weights, 2 cardio), and have a decent social life, going out clubbing at least once a week, and spending most of my free time out and about rather than shut in my room. However, I have always been terrible with women! I think that I always idealised them in the past, and am only recently getting over that, thanks largely to this board! Cheers guys:D I have never gone further than kissing, and even that was only fairly recently.


Tuesday night I met a girl who is in some of my seminars this term, and we talked for a few hours. Her house is on the way to mine so she suggested that we go get some food on our way home. When we got to hers she invited me in for a drink, and we kissed (she initiated it). Unfortunately, I was drunk, tired and inexperienced. I started off kissing her with my eyes open, which she noticed, and even after I had gathered myself slightly she still told me that I seemed nervous (and called it cute). We didnt go further than that. She invited me to stay at hers in her bed, which I took her up on, and we chatted for a while longer, played a bit, although not really sexually, then went to sleep.


A couple of days later I had a seminar and lecture with her. Things were slightly awkward at first, but pretty quickly reverted to how they had been previously. She mentioned the other night, and we had a bit of a laugh about it briefly. I quite like this girl. She isnt a oneitis, but is a really good person.


So, what do I do? Did I totally mess it up with the kiss? Should I have pushed harder for the F-close? Should I ask her out? Or should I just leave it alone and forget it ever happened?

Thanks :woo:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Macca

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Well she most likely feels that you're being a bit off-ish which is understandable due to your, admitted, inexperiance. Just chill mate - take her out for a meal or something...surprise her! She's obviously into you!
 

Nasman

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Dude she is into you. If you are ever drinking with a girl and lying in bed with her you should fyck her. This is a learning experience don't let this slip you by. Quit being a wuss, fvck that pusy.
 

Charm

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Yea, you might not get second chances at being in bed with her. She obviously really likes you and she wants you to be bold. You need to BOTTLE your fears up and have some courage to go into uncharted waters. Start by rubbing her and getting her excited, rub against her and let nature do the rest!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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