"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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okay I got the answer. They work from an inner self and deep convictions and less on the outside world.
 

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I'm actually going to say that they got lucky in their early experiences. Like it or not, men do get confidence from having good relationships and sex.

So what happened is that some guys had some success in their early teens through sheer act of luck. Then they just kept on having more and more successes. So they became confident.

Some other guys did not have any of the early success and for whatever reason ended up being shunned by females. Those guys never learned the skills on how to deal with women. It's impossible to gain confidence when one does nothing but fail.

I often wonder how my life would have turned out if I actually got somebody to like me back in elementary or Jr. High.
 

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They are good looking or rich and are blessed with great genes (big divk, ambition, great dna) Any other questions I can help you with?
 

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Maxtro said:
I'm actually going to say that they got lucky in their early experiences. Like it or not, men do get confidence from having good relationships and sex.

So what happened is that some guys had some success in their early teens through sheer act of luck. Then they just kept on having more and more successes. So they became confident.

Some other guys did not have any of the early success and for whatever reason ended up being shunned by females. Those guys never learned the skills on how to deal with women. It's impossible to gain confidence when one does nothing but fail.

I often wonder how my life would have turned out if I actually got somebody to like me back in elementary or Jr. High.
Wow cry harder will you, blaming your life on your childhood. The past is over so fuk it right. Not everyone who is a success in life/women/whatever started that way. Im know theres plenty of ballers and players who didnt achieve any success until later in life due to their childhood failures and the bad hands they were dealt. But you know what? They overcame that bullsh1t and did reach the level they wanted and didnt sit and wonder with "what ifs".
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Julian said:
Wow cry harder will you, blaming your life on your childhood. The past is over so fuk it right.

Not everyone who is a success in life/women/whatever started that way. Im know theres plenty of ballers and players who didnt achieve any success until later in life due to their childhood failures and the bad hands they were dealt. But you know what? They overcame that bullsh1t and did reach the level they wanted and didnt sit and wonder with "what ifs".
Just because the past is over and my childhood is long gone, doesn't mean it didn't have a profound affect on who I am now.

Since I've been trying to improve my life for a while now, but I'm still completely struggling, it's impossible to never wonder "what if."

That doesn't mean I've given up, just that I have a serious handicap that must be overcome.
 

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Maxtro said:
Just because the past is over and my childhood is long gone, doesn't mean it didn't have a profound affect on who I am now.

Since I've been trying to improve my life for a while now, but I'm still completely struggling, it's impossible to never wonder "what if."

That doesn't mean I've given up, just that I have a serious handicap that must be overcome.
a personality is pretty much defined by age 10ish (according to the BBC)
what effects it?
- genetics
-parents
-other environmental (which is party also determeined by your parents)

so its fair to wonder "what if" and "blame it on your childhood" to an extent, BUT then think im a MAN now, i have to move on and make it my reality, so you can change your self later on but it takes time!
 

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Some people go through their early days with their self-steem and their confidence mostly unscathed, and then they just soar through life, grab it by the balls and get it done. Some other people have their ups and downs, but they can easily repair the damage by doing this:

BUT then think im a MAN now, i have to move on and make it my reality, so you can change your self later

Some other kids, because of a very weak parental support, a very bad set of 'cards' that are unfavorable on their early days and just plain bad luck, end up with zero self-steem, constant self-hate and no confidence at all. For them, I have nothing but sympathy and good-wishes, because there's no way they're gonna fix themselves and they'll have to spend a lot of money on therapy to have a chance at steering the ship.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if quite a few of us had childhoods that messed up our confidence, self-esteem and social skills. Unfortunately those things also had an affect on how we deal with girls.

In the end there are only two things we can do, roll over and die, or work our butts off to fix the wrongs that were not even our fault.

I've been in CBT for a few months and I'm starting to feel better about myself. I'm also working on areas that need a lot of improvement. It's going to be a long hard road, but have no choice to stick to it.

One thing though is that I'm jealous of my 16 year old half-brother. The kid's going to have a much better life than I did and will probably ended up getting way more girls that I ever (never) did.

Unlike my brother (25) and I, he is being raised by both his parents, who actually now know what they are doing and want to make sure he succeeds in school and life. He's getting help from our dad about women, which dad never gave to me even though I lived with him. If the good upbringing weren't enough he's also about 6 inches taller than me, kid's probably 6 feet while I got stuck at 5'6. Same f-ing dad and he's 6 inches taller than me...

OK rant over, I'm going to fight on etc.
 

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Sure he has the same dad?
Yup. Our Dad is 5'10 and a full Cuban all his sons are half Cuban half white. I'm 5'6. My 25 year old brother is 5'8. So somehow the sons from his first marriage were shorter than him. New wife and suddenly he's got a 6' kid. What's weirder is that all the men on my mom's side of the family are over 6 feet. My maternal grandfather is 6'2. Apparently my paternal grandfather whom I never met, was 5'6. Out of all the men in my family to get height from it had to be the shortest one :down:

I try not to think about my height and make it a big deal but it does lower my confidence being so short. There's also the factor that being short may have made me look bad in the eyes of women.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Too much whining here. I am 5'7", and yes some women are at my height and won't even look at me, who the fvck cares -- I don't care about them either. How you carry yourself and what you do is what's important. You can be a midget, but if you do big things, in the eyes of many, you are 10-foot tall.

Yes, people are annoying that they have preferences. They prefer X over Y. They compare and ****. They do bad things and they traumatize you. They talk you down and condescend you like they are superstars. BUT WHO GIVES A ****!?

Why don't you start focusing on achieving your goals?
 

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One thing though is that I'm jealous of my 16 year old half-brother. The kid's going to have a much better life than I did and will probably ended up getting way more girls that I ever (never) did.
Heh, my brother is 18 and he's had more chicks in 2 weeks than I've had all my life.
 

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Stop blaming your bad childhood or the past on your low self esteem now! I agree that it affects a person in a big way, but you'll stay with the same low self-esteeem until the moment that you truely can say to yourself that past is the past and im gonna change. Use your past bad experience as your motivation now!! BUT ONLY AS MOTIVATION!! because if you keep thinking about them, remember them and relive them in your mind you will never completely get past them. And they will just keep coming back in your head and keep you trapped. You'll experience a great cycle.

You'll be motivated to change your life and become the man you want to become. You'll make a list of goals and try to reach them. You'll work hard for a week, two weeks, month, BUT THEN you'll start remembering your past self, all your failures and bad memories. This sh!t comes at you after the smallest failure or sometimes out of nowhere. And now you're back to low selfesteem again. Back to where you started, ground zero. After some time pass, some more failures, you'll get madd and want to change again. But the same cycle will come through IF YOU LET THOSE THOUGHTS ABOUT YOUR PAST SELF COME AND CONTROL YOU MIND!!!

To change, you have to do things differently than you've been doing before. It all starts with your mentality, in what you think about. If your thinking the same thoughts you've been thinking before, then you havent changed a bitt! The past is nothing more than a print a shoe leaves behind!
 

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Telling yourself 1000 times (it's a lot) a day that you are 'confident, prize and the best thing to ever happen to a woman' IS NOT GONNA CUT IT!!!

If you are not a sociopath your brain knows you are lying.

You become confident when you do things you are afraid of and you don't die.

To do "dangerous" things without prior confidence you need something called COURAGE aka not being a pvssy.

Any psycho self-babble and affirmations are proven nonsense, especially for long run. The reason why they don't work is they bring attention to your shortcomings....you say "I am confident and prize" and your brain goes.."Why is he saying that? Maybe because he is missing these qualities...." See.
 

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Falcon25 said:
They are good looking or rich and are blessed with great genes (big divk, ambition, great dna) Any other questions I can help you with?
I got one. Are you ever going to quit?

Poster: "What is the secret to confidence?"
Falcon25: "Be good-looking."

What's REALLY scary is that there's 2 or 3 other posters on here (virgins) that'll look at that sequence of dialogue and think..."Yeah, that seems about right." You epitomize AFCism. Confidence comes from within, not from having money or facial symmetry you fucking misinformed tabloid-reading twat. Go read the DJ Bible.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Just a Shot Away said:
I got one. Are you ever going to quit?

Poster: "What is the secret to confidence?"
Falcon25: "Be good-looking."

What's REALLY scary is that there's 2 or 3 other posters on here (virgins) that'll look at that sequence of dialogue and think..."Yeah, that seems about right." You epitomize AFCism. Confidence comes from within, not from having money or facial symmetry you fucking misinformed tabloid-reading twat. Go read the DJ Bible.
It's hard to be a homosexual isn't it? I know that it kills you everyday that you have to hide who you really are. I feel bad for you. Especially after I saw your picture on that post. Confidence does come from within, but remember, the more good looking, rich, and great genes you have, the easier you will attain it. You have lost all credibility on this forum. Every post about you is making fun of you. We call you facial symmetry. You are disliked by people you have never met, no wonder women dislike you as well.
 

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Just a Shot Away said:
I got one. Are you ever going to quit?

Poster: "What is the secret to confidence?"
Falcon25: "Be good-looking."

What's REALLY scary is that there's 2 or 3 other posters on here (virgins) that'll look at that sequence of dialogue and think..."Yeah, that seems about right." You epitomize AFCism. Confidence comes from within, not from having money or facial symmetry you fucking misinformed tabloid-reading twat. Go read the DJ Bible.
It's hard to be a homosexual isn't it? I know that it kills you everyday that you have to hide who you really are. I feel bad for you. Especially after I saw your picture on that post. Confidence does come from within, but remember, the more good looking, rich, and great genes you have, the easier you will attain it. You have lost all credibility on this forum. Every post about you is making fun of you. We call you facial symmetry. You are disliked by people you have never met, no wonder women dislike you as well.
 

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Falcon25 said:
It's hard to be a homosexual isn't it?
You respond to the facts with "O YA??! WEL UR GAY N STUF!!!!"? You're awesome, dude. :D Keep doing what you do.
 

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I believe being good looking could be a major factor in being confident but not always. A lot of good looking guys are AFC, with no confidence when they should be brimming with it.
And we're off to the races. Physical attractiveness is no reason to be confident. Women have evolved different criteria for sexual selection than men, and facial symmetry has been phased out of the equation through the ages.

See ya on page 8, Hero. Unless it gets closed/deleted before then, which it most DEFINITELY should be.
 

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Good can and do often factor in confidence. I'm not saying you have to be good looking, rich or accomplished to be confident, but it often helps. But everyone's different, it just depends how you take it.

Without sounding arrogant, I think I'm a good looking guy and it definitely gives me confidence. That being said, I know plenty of other guys that are good looking and are still lacking in confidence.

I also think confidence can be gained by having the attitude of really not giving a sh*t what negative opinions people have of you.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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