"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Hot Girls Rarely Get Hit On

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I don't really understand the point of this thread. Ok so hot girls don't get guys approaching them that often. That doesn't mean that they are single. If she has a BF does she notice when guys are approaching her? And another question does she even realize that she is being approached by guys.

Hot girls have guys around them all the time. Are they aware that those guys, more like, every guy she runs into wants to screw her?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Mad Manic said:
I think there may be a case that a lot of guys cold approach girls below a 9 directly rather than 9s and 10s purely to save embarassment, hassle, effort, etc. But it is also true that a hot girl will be scouted by the tops guys whether cold or warm approaches, and she also has a bigger social network with lots of male options. Also worth noting, if a hot girl complains about cold approach in club attention, she's basically asking for more worshipping and pedestalising, it's a form of attention seeking.

To DonJuan11, there are single attractive girls at university, but it's because they won't go out with anybody that doesn't fit a tall, white, good looking, middle class type with race and class being the most important of that. Girls get hit on and attracted to guys that hit on them, but then princess complex takes over and they prefer to reject and remain single.

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You, my friend, have some severely limiting beliefs. You can't generalise all girls together....appriach enough 9s and 10s, and you'll sleep with some of them. And that's that. Don't categorise ppl....you'll be surprised how wrong you are a lot of the time.
 

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cyp6 said:
the cool thing is its easy for a guy to look good by hitting the gym.
I think if you think about this comment further then you'll see how ridiculous it is. If a guy has the right genetics, the right determination and the right passion then MAYBE after 2-3 years he can have a great physique. But it's simply not something that is easily attainable for most. Also, things like race, class, height, facial looks, bone structure etc are very important too. And girls can hit the gym and get great bodies too.

MM
 

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L777 said:
You, my friend, have some severely limiting beliefs. You can't generalise all girls together....appriach enough 9s and 10s, and you'll sleep with some of them. And that's that. Don't categorise ppl....you'll be surprised how wrong you are a lot of the time.
I'm not wrong. Not once have I stated one can't lay a hot chick or get a hot gf, I've never once said it's impossible. Read what I say. If you think that race and class aren't the most important 2 criteria then you needn't reply either. My uni is 1/3rd white, 1/3rd indian, 1/3rd chinese and 194/200 white girls date a white guy, and barely 50% of white guys are single compared to over 90% of indian guys in a sample I took. But don't debate this or the thread will get locked. I also don't see how I generalised anything badly about hot girls ... they do have big social networks and many guys do fear approaching them. I'm also sure more approaches = more lays. So yes.

MM
 

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cyp6 said:
HOTTER women have higher standers.. just like how better looking,wealthy, or educated guys have higher standers... the only difference is guys can change their league, while women are simply either born beautifully or not, the cool thing is its easy for a guy to look good by hitting the gym.
Actually, for the average guy, it takes YEARS of dedication to a tough workout regime and good nutrition to actually "look good" from working out. Otherwise you'd just look like you put on a little muscle. And thats assuming you don't get injured at all. An injury that puts you out for a couple of months can put you back a whole year. I was injured for 3 months, and I had noticeable atrophy.

You are right though, guys can change their league, women can only go down.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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DonJuan11 said:
Your above post does not hold water. How come all the HB 9.5 have 6'1 boyfriends who are hockey players then? These guys are not AFCs and usually screw the brains out of the hot girls. It's the ugly or overweight ones that never get approached and are always willing.
The ugly or overweight chicks ain't shy about approaching men. They know that they have nothing going for them and THEY have to make moves cuz very few men approach those unattractive women.

For the rich and athletes and famous stars all alike, HB 9+ are EASY for them to get, no effort required. All they have to do is say their name and ask them out.
 

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cyp6 said:
HOTTER women have higher standers.. just like how better looking,wealthy, or educated guys have higher standers... the only difference is guys can change their league, while women are simply either born beautifully or not, the cool thing is its easy for a guy to look good by hitting the gym.
When all else fails, you can have plastic surgery. Your confidence should go through the roof then!
 

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Bump.

After tons of experience and 2 extra years under my belt, I still have to agree with my original point here. Girls rarely get approached my cool guys that know what they're doing. The reason why girls have those "hockey player" boyfriends is either because:

1) the hockey players (or anyone else like that) have social status, are used to being social, and are very persistent

or

2) because jocks tend to be more on the stupid side....and just because a girl is hot doesn't mean she isn't stupid (yes, in the last fews year, I've met tons and tons of hot girls that I wouldn't be even remotely interested in dating....some I wouldn't be interested in fvckin because their personalities are just that bad)

That's why you see so many hot girls with ugly guys, guys that are douches, etc. Usually they got the guys from their social circles because that's where their comfort lies.

Of course, if you introduce a legitimately cool guy with good game into the picture (from a cold approach), then the social circle guys are no match.

JK
 

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They do intimidate most men, yet, they DO get hit on a lot more than you realize.

Get yourself a "Hot" girlfriend, and then you'll realize first hand just how they get on throughout the day, wether very directly, or indirectly, under the radar. Now, she will usually just get starred at when with her man, but if you were so observe them when alone, you'd have an even bigger realization.

The hotties I've dated, and my hot friends and attractive female relatives never come out and tell me, but I am always probing and asking them questions so it is just a matter of time before they start telling me about all the guys they have to deal with.

They get hit on when they go pump gas, at the library, at the grocery store, at the gym, at work, when they are in line waiting for a sandwich, when walking their dog, etc. All of these scenarios are all during "day game".

A hot woman who doesn't look like a total, cold, ruthless, unnaproachable bitsh, DOES get approached several times a day, on the average. After a while, they don't even consider it getting approached, as it happens so often and it is just part of their daily lives.

If you don't realize this or haven't seen it, you probably haven't seen it with the lessear attractive ones either. It is happening. If it wasn't, how would you explain the countless orbiters that try to cling on them almost every day. As somebody posted, most guys are chumps and try to befiend them. Most hotties have had or have at least one guy who exhibits stalker tendencies.

Open your eyes a litte bit more.
 

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My eyes are open man.

I'm not saying that hot girls don't get hit on.

I'm saying that the approaches are usually really lame (ie: a guy getting really drunk and hitting on her at a party).

I've dated and hung out with (as friends) many attractive women. Very rarely do they ever tell me a story about a guy that impresses me. For the female friends (that are very attractive, but I'm not interested in dating for one reason or another), I rarely hear them talking about any guy that they haven't met through other friends. I have, however, heard them talking about some lame guy that did some lame approach that day.

The fact of the matter is a lot of guys that do have the balls to approach a girl during the day are scared ****less by the time they actually approach. And they don't get the girl.

In fact, one of the girls in particular that I'm dating right now (and that I met while doing a cold approach at a 7/11) told me this. Guys approached her, but she was intrigued by my confidence because most other guys don't act like that (ie: extremely comfortable and confident around attractive women and doing cold approaches).

That was my entire point (although maybe I didn't make it that clear).

JK
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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this is SOMETIMES true, for example I was recently at a concert and two girls walked by and everyone around me was stairing at her friend, I just chuckled and started a conversation and the older guys around me were giving me props (they were too old to try anyway) for how easy I was making it look. But everyone was staring at these girls and nobody had the confidence to just say something.
 

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I personally know this one girl, who most of society consider "smoking hot", hands down. you would have to be gay to not think she is dead sexy, or that you wouldn't do dirty things to her, but with that said gay guys said they'd turn straight for her. She has the perfect body, party girl background, busted chest, and an amazing and fun personality. She gets hit on by anyone, with or without game, during work, school, around, etc.
 

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Eh, I think the OP needs a bit of qualification. In college, especially the college I went to, full of smart but not the most socially savvy people, hot girls weren't approached often...or if they were, the guy's game was so weak that she was turned off.

On one of my most "on" days when in college, this HB9.5 and I caught eyes at a party. I approached, danced w/her and invited her back to an afterparty. On the way to the afterparty, she said something about being a model. I told her point blank"yeah right." Of course my approach worked. I just didn't have the balls to call her back.

In upcoming weeks, she'd eye me but I never followed up. Whenever she entered a room, every guy turned. Most were too afraid to approach her. Those who did were corny.

I'm still new to "real world" and going out in that setting but as for college, yeah, I think what the OP claims is true.
 

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Ok I am going to post right now with not reading the thread after I read it I will repost.

Now Hot Girls do get hit on, but you know they get hit on in the wierdest ways like they are so sick of it like guys screaming sexcccc or some guy who summoned up the courage to talk to her and says hi and then runs home to his mum and crys.., when you hit on a hot girl you have differentiate yourself from the losers. She has been hit on so much you have to be original, funny interesting and all of it has to be without trying. Mind you are analysing if she is funny and interesting too if she is not, she might be hot but you might just consider her for a rooott nufn more ;)
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Myth-Started-In-This-Thread Busted:

My last fwb was an actual 8.something (in other words, a real 8.something, not the mega over-bolstered scores guys plaster on girls on this site where the typical 8 is a 5.5). This was when I was 14, and she told me that whenever she went out, she would get guys of about 28 ask to buy her drinks, and I am not kidding you. She also said the worst place is Portugal because her and her friend got hit on constantly at the poolside bars and stuff by fully grown adults.

Also when she walked with me around places she got wolf-whistled by a group of guys. I never personally saw any guys actually physically come up and talk to her, though a few really loose connections I had (eg guys I only knew by their faces and had NEVER spoken to) were talking to me and hovering a lot.
 

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I totally 100% agree with you on that when it comes to hot girls getting hit on in public places ... malls, colleges, books stores , etc. When it comes to Bars and Clubs i would say that hot girls get hit on alot because most guys are under the influence of alcohol and that helps overcome the fear of rejection.

I have been watching this very closely at my UNI too and it seems like i am the only guy talking to girls in class and trying to chat up girls period. I have been observing this for past 2-3 semesters and i have only seen one guy attempt to talk to a girl in class where clearly he was interested in her.

The dude came in sat next to the girl, didnt say a word to her for like what seemed 6-7 minutes... than turned to her and said My name is blah blah whats your and offered to shake her hand. She gave him the name and clearly didnt seem interested. It was horrible approach that made me feel nervous/awkward/ bad and i was sitting 2 rows behind them and wasnt even in the conversation!!!!

IT amazes me at how many people will sit next to each other for the whole semester and not say a word to each other. This is especially true when it comes a guy sitting next to a hot girl.
 
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