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Hot Girls Go Cold

oscarkool

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I know a lot of you guys here are able to get women, but for those of you that are able to pull hot women, what are your experience with them going cold? For me, it seems that every hot girl I tend to hook up with has more issues and emotional baggage than I can deal with. They consistently have doubts, are extremely insecure, and go cold for weeks at a time. I wouldn't go as far as to call them BPD as a lot of dudes here do, but after being with several dozen hot, attractive girls, every single one of them have these same crazy characteristics: extreme emotional ups and downs, baggage from the past, hot and cold, etc.

I've simply come to accept the fact that it's just the American way when you're hot and living in the big city. I have no idea how it is in middle America or other countries as I'm on the West Coast and this has been the case with 100% of the 30+ hot women I've been with. It's crazy! Can you relate?
 

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You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

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I can relate, basically some are just different flavors of the same cray. Some, not all.

You need a healthy level of detachment to be able to play at this level. It's not for the meek.
 

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Yes, the hotter (and younger) the more likely this happens. You might think that if you can land 4 hot girls you must be ok, but they'll all flake on their own time. It's normal so just keep spinning.
 

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All women can and will do this. Especially if a seemingly better option comes along.

If a woman is interested in you, she'll find a way to get you.

If you see a woman playing hard to get, don't delude yourself into thinking it's an IOI. It's not.

Case and point, imagine if you just won a 100 million dollar jackpot in the lottery. Would a woman play hard to get with you? No. And she'd be a fool if she did. Why? Because during the time she's playing hard to get, you'll be nailing lots of other women who are being straight up with you. And you wouldn't worry about the one playing hard to get.

When a woman goes cold, usually there's another man in the picture. And all women have another man somewhere. Fact of life. Harsh though.

Women are as choosy as their seemingly infinite options.

Case closed.
 
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For sure, super hot girls are ****ing nutts. Take a model I dated recently. Drop dead gorgeous with the longest pair of legs you will ever see on a girl, but equally insecure too. She'd always ***** about her tiny boobs, ending up on the street, blah blah blah. It's ironic too. I once thought the hotter they are, the more confident but it has been anything but that for the hottest of the hottest I've dated. As for them flaking, can't help you there.. cause with me they're either crazy about me or not at all into me. There doesn't seem to be an in between with me, excluding the ones who act like they're being my friend with the secret desire to **** my brains out first chance they get. Cause if you are to know thy self, then thyself I know and knowing thyself is knowing no girl I've been "friends" with hasn't harbored some secret fantasy or feelings for me. Seriously, I feel like a piece of meat sometimes.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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ladyzman said:
For sure, super hot girls are ****ing nutts. Take a model I dated recently. Drop dead gorgeous with the longest pair of legs you will ever see on a girl, but equally insecure too. She'd always ***** about her tiny boobs, ending up on the street, blah blah blah. It's ironic too. I once thought the hotter they are, the more confident but it has been anything but that for the hottest of the hottest I've dated. As for them flaking, can't help you there.. cause with me they're either crazy about me or not at all into me. There doesn't seem to be an in between with me, excluding the ones who act like they're being my friend with the secret desire to **** my brains out first chance they get. Cause if you are to know thy self, then thyself I know and knowing thyself is knowing no girl I've been "friends" with hasn't harbored some secret fantasy or feelings for me. Seriously, I feel like a piece of meat sometimes.
I hear ya man. I've personally given up on relationships simply because I'm in my 20's and every girl I've dated that's good looking is more interested in 'playing the field' than committing even to a solid dude like myself. I wouldn't say the women flake, I'd say it's more just falling out of the picture for whatever reason. Instead of asking them what's up and blowing their phone up like most dudes, I usually just delete their number/remove from Facebook, etc. without telling them and this usually get's their attention. Though lately I've been getting with much more women that I don't even care if they leave and I've managed to have a solid few girls that I see weekly. I think this is the prime point to be at, simply having a few solid options that don't drain all your time.

Had a BPD chick go crazy on me the other day when I deleted her from facebook and refused to talk to her. Calling me over and over and then dozens of texts about how she's going to 'harass' me until I tell her why I cut her off. Funny, I don't hear from her for a week and then she freaks out when I cut her off. Classic BPD! I've found with BPD's that the only way to keep the power is to always demand respect and never take their abuse. Always be willing to walk. If you want a BPD out of your life, you gotta block her number and ignore her for good. I never go to that point (at least not right now), I'll sleep with them and hang out with them when they're on good behavior, but when they go cold and disrespect me (going cold is a sign of HUGE disrespect unless you've ESTABLISHED that you'll only talk once per week or whatever), I delete delete delete!

Dating hotties is brutal but something you learn to deal with unless you have no interest in a relationship, which is usually the case for emotionally damaged people (which I am not).
 

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oscarkool said:
I know a lot of you guys here are able to get women, but for those of you that are able to pull hot women, what are your experience with them going cold? For me, it seems that every hot girl I tend to hook up with has more issues and emotional baggage than I can deal with. They consistently have doubts, are extremely insecure, and go cold for weeks at a time. I wouldn't go as far as to call them BPD as a lot of dudes here do, but after being with several dozen hot, attractive girls, every single one of them have these same crazy characteristics: extreme emotional ups and downs, baggage from the past, hot and cold, etc.

I've simply come to accept the fact that it's just the American way when you're hot and living in the big city. I have no idea how it is in middle America or other countries as I'm on the West Coast and this has been the case with 100% of the 30+ hot women I've been with. It's crazy! Can you relate?

You remind me of the countless women who claim they can't find any normal, decent guys because for some strange reason they always seem to (unwittingly through no fault of their own) date the 'douche bags'.
 

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You remind me of the countless women who claim they can't find any normal, decent guys because for some strange reason they always seem to (unwittingly through no fault of their own) date the 'douche bags'.
That's because hot women are usually incredibly insecure, and since X = X (you attract what you project), they continue to sleep with douche bags, which are incredibly insecure men (though not a weak pushover like the 'nice guy').

Hence why meeting women in bars/clubs is always doomed for failure (where 95% of these people are insecure). But hey if you want to score with a hottie, this is unfortunately where you have to go. I always hope I'll find the actual strong, confident hotty here but eventually they show their true insecure, crazy colors. Maybe it's time to go to church instead...
 

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That's because hot women are usually incredibly insecure, and since X = X (you attract what you project), they continue to sleep with douche bags, which are incredibly insecure men (though not a weak pushover like the 'nice guy').

Hence why meeting women in bars/clubs is always doomed for failure :p

You reply just answered your own thread on why hot girls suddenly turn cold. Think about it.
 

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Bumsniff said:
You remind me of the countless women who claim they can't find any normal, decent guys because for some strange reason they always seem to (unwittingly through no fault of their own) date the 'douche bags'.
truth

there are red flags before you even hook up with a chick. your gut is always there to tell you when to hit the eject button but some men ignore it and choose to deal with these kind of chicks because they're hot

that's the game. in my experience there are very few people, men and women that are both highly attractive and have an equal quality personality to boot, and the list gets even shorter if you're looking for those that are single

you have to set boundaries of what you'll put up with when it comes to girls, because they're never going to be the perfect image of what you want them to be. we all have flaws. if these girls are too much to deal with, walk
 

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You reply just answered your own thread on why hot girls suddenly turn cold. Think about it.
Yes that is part of the answer, but why would an insecure woman go cold on a DJ? That is the real question. Hot women, in my experience, seem to go cold on AFC's for obvious reasons and also on the strong, secure dudes.

You know, now that I think about it, I can't think of any solid relationships involving hot women. All the ones I see are toxic and incredibly unhealthy. Are we all doomed?
 

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Yes that is part of the answer, but why would an insecure woman go cold on a DJ? That is the real question. Hot women, in my experience, seem to go cold on AFC's for obvious reasons and also on the strong, secure dudes.

You know, now that I think about it, I can't think of any solid relationships involving hot women. All the ones I see are toxic and incredibly unhealthy. Are we all doomed?

First off forget the "DJ" bvllsh1T. Too many people need to get over themselves and come back to mother earth and forget that crap.

If ANYONE goes cold it's for some or a few good reasons. You need to find the common denominator or trigger point you notice of what YOU could possibly be doing to turn them off. (Some may just be insecure, used to getting their way, or just a b1tch) It's how you learn to overcome those signs and learn to flip it or not bother dealing with those certain types of women at all.

Just like the woman (hot babe, ugg, etc.) who claims all she attracts is 'loooosers' when the main issue is with herself. Otherwise she wouldn't have constant complaints about the 'loooosers' who for some 'unknown to humanity' insane reason she always winds up with one.
 

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First off forget the "DJ" bvllsh1T. Too many people need to get over themselves and come back to mother earth and forget that crap.

If ANYONE goes cold it's for some or a few good reasons. You need to find the common denominator or trigger point you notice of what YOU could possibly be doing to turn them off. (Some may just be insecure, used to getting their way, or just a b1tch) It's how you learn to overcome those signs and learn to flip it or not bother dealing with those certain types of women at all.

Just like the woman (hot babe, ugg, etc.) who claims all she attracts is 'loooosers' when the main issue is with herself. Otherwise she wouldn't have constant complaints about the 'loooosers' who for some 'unknown to humanity' insane reason she always winds up with one.
Amen brotha. We all have room for improvement and if you're not improving yourself on a daily basis, you're failing. I just find it odd that the hottie mctottys of the world are never happy.
 

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oscarkool said:
Yes that is part of the answer, but why would an insecure woman go cold on a DJ? That is the real question. Hot women, in my experience, seem to go cold on AFC's for obvious reasons and also on the strong, secure dudes.

You know, now that I think about it, I can't think of any solid relationships involving hot women. All the ones I see are toxic and incredibly unhealthy. Are we all doomed?
You know all the answers already. Maybe you just don't want to accept them.

The reason is because it has nothing to do with who you are. It's not going to change who they are. The ONLY thing that changes, when you develop game, build confidence, become social, make yourself appear better, etc, is that these people become attracted to you. That's it. A ***** is still going to be a *****. Nothing is ever going to change on their front.

This is the problem with people who fail with certain women, then develop the skills to attract them. IE, going from AFC to DJ. If you choose the wrong women, you're still going to fail. The relationship will still be chaos. They're still going to cheat, and leave you when they get bored. Becoming a DJ doesn't change jack.

It's like when people become jerks or bad boys to attract certain women they couldn't before (ie, *****es, snobs, skanks, etc). They attract all these people, yes, but they don't change. There is no fairytale romance to be had. It's quite the double edged sword, really. Not all its cracked up to be.

There is no one way ticket to success. The best thing to do is become wiser, and learn which girls are only good for sex, and those worth being in LTRs with. A dumb, stuck up, hot chick isn't going to be nice because you develop game and look good. Some people aren't relationship material. Nothing you do on your end is going to change that.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

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