"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Hot girl with a kid

ezily

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OK guys what is your take on a hot girl who has a kid? I mean she's probably a HB7 but the kid really turns me off to her (seeing as I'm pretty young). I don't think I'm ready to deal with this. I have too much going for me now. But would any of you go for a girl with a kid?

I guess I should add that I have an opportunity with this chick but I'm just not sure if I want to take it.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I.A.F.Y.B.

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Don't raise someone else's DNA!! Fvck her if you want but, no relationship with her...
 

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Don't even bang her. She made one mistake you don't want to be paying for the next one. Next mistake, next slippage of the condom, and you're paying. We already know that she doesn't believe in abortion.
 

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ezily said:
OK guys what is your take on a hot girl who has a kid? I mean she's probably a HB7 but the kid really turns me off to her (seeing as I'm pretty young). I don't think I'm ready to deal with this. I have too much going for me now. But would any of you go for a girl with a kid?

I guess I should add that I have an opportunity with this chick but I'm just not sure if I want to take it.
IMO, i would just hit it from time to time but the risk your taking is she might want you to become the man in her and her childs life.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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bunch of nervous nellies in this thread. dood. understand this...the older you get, the more you are gonna run into chicks with kids. At my age its the norm.

First off...what do you want from this girl? Do you want a one night stand? **** buddies, or a long term relationship. You sound like you want a relationship or its headed that way. If so..I would say don't go there.

ONS and FB's single moms are great for these. They usually are very busy and don't have time for much else unless you are planning to play house with them.

Never fall into the provider, step dad/boyfriend role with these women. Unless you are ready to commit to that, don't play like that. My personal rule is this..if she is pushing the kid on me soon after we meet, I'm out. I usually sort this out before hand by saying this "I'm a father, and your a mother, I'm not looking for a mother for my child, I'm looking for somene to spend quality adult time with and have fun. I don't believe children should meet someone until it's serious, I don't want to damage a child by bringing people in and out of his/her life". Either she gets the hint or she doesn't. If she doesn't she has disqualified herself.


Use the same sexual precautions you would use with any other girl. Guywhoneedshelp really needs help it seems. Most girls aren't up for abortions buddy. Get over it.

At your age, you probably can find a lot of girls who don't have kids. So go look around. I suggest if you are still AFC or have a lot of afc still in you....steer clear. You might not be ready yet for a woman with kids. You have to understand you will never be number one in her life. Which is great for ONS or FB. But for a relationship...its not that great. I'm watching several buddies who are married to women with kids by previous relationships and its not what they thought it was going to be.

Check the mature man forum about dating women with kids. They can give you some valuable insight.
 

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I think this is really good advice from Warrior74...

"At your age, you probably can find a lot of girls who don't have kids. So go look around. I suggest if you are still AFC or have a lot of afc still in you....steer clear. You might not be ready yet for a woman with kids. You have to understand you will never be number one in her life. Which is great for ONS or FB. But for a relationship...its not that great. I'm watching several buddies who are married to women with kids by previous relationships and its not what they thought it was going to be."

solid Advice.
 

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Warriors right, dont be a provider. If you even brag that you have lots of money you will get manipulated. Just remember the saying: Love me, love my children. Talk about her kid in your opener
 

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yeah, Warrior, you're right. I mean this girl is young too (21 or 22) but I just needed some reinforcement I guess. My first thought was single mom is bad but then I wasn't sure due to IOIs. Oh well, I'll just see where this goes. Though it's kinda hard to hold back when she's pretty much throwing herself at me (or so it seems).
 
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