Horrifying story about infidelity

[NoBiscuits]

Yeah...Red pill theory was wrong in the end. The wall never came. They just looked for a supply of validation instead.

I also don't like slamming men for being weak. You don't start out strong, you need to be civilized and cultivated into it by the previous generation. And it needs real elite backing. You can't just have a subset of "the people" trying to do it on their own against the will of the upper classes and every institution.

Women used to be barred from owning a credit card, divorcing without approval of the church, and would get dunked in a pond by their local peers for infidelity. Men's groups used to be common and would get special employment and leadership opportunities. Early Americans were allowed to sue their children for disobedience. Today all of these things are banned.

So what backing do men today have to be strong men who have the power of making the final decision? A couple algorithm-suppressed bloggers and youtubers saying words to them and calling them pathetic? Words don't provide much, and hold no power on their own.

Let's say I was the head of, idk, a steel manufacturing labor union where most employees are men. I need to be guaranteed by the state that if I make a decision like "only men can be on the executive board" then that decision is actually respected, no questions asked. But today there are dozens of ways which my authority would get shut out and this is what the state guarantees today.

So for those who like railing on younger men for being weak, what exactly were they supposed to do? Where do they get to practice leadership and gain confidence in their authority? When are their decisions actually respected? Where are they taught that they're expected to be in charge? What institutions will back them up when they face controversy? What laws give them advantages? Where can men come together as an exclusive group to mutually benefit each other? Where can they go to set and enforce standards on their own?
What's the biggest men's group you know of? Does it have actual influence over the rest of society? And are men actually in charge of it, or is there at least one woman on executive staff to police it?

The husband in this story did everything right. He doesn't sound like a weak man, quite the opposite, but everything fell apart regardless. Countless stories like this one.

 

[NoBiscuits]

Double post, but I thought of a better way to say it.

Are you guys familiar with the Legend of Smok?

Dragon under the castle, terrorizing the people
Kind sends warrior to slay dragon
Dragon eats warrior
King assumes bad warrior, sends stronger one
Dragon eats second warrior
King doesn't know what to do <---- we are here
Clever alchemist suggests alternative to slay dragon
King allows alchemist to make fake lamb poisoned with hot spices and sulfur
Dragon takes bait, gets thirsty, drinks water, explodes
Dragon dies, King becomes sovereign

 

[Millard Fillmore]

Not horrifying. Long term monogamy is not compatible with humanity IMO.

5.) Her ex husband knew that if she worked then she would be tempted to cheat. This what happened.

Gee I wonder why. Just another dude trying to draw "boundaries" around someone else. Self fulfilling prophecy because of his lack of frame. (Though we don't have his side of the story.)

This guy would fit right in on SS. "I told her not to do it and she did anyway." Filter, people, have some standards.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Slight hijack: dopamine is a great resource for DJ’s, if you learn how to spike it in a chick you can borderline guide their behaviors, it is a powerful skill to have. In a bad actor’s hands it is dangerous.

In a bad actor's hands it becomes an addiction that causes a loss of self-control that cannot be regained.

 

[Pandora]

Lay reports, when? @Pandora

Well im engaged to a chick ( long distance). So i should not even be talking to other women. Old habits die hard. I wanted to see what my SMV was on the dating market so downloaded an app. Apparently its better than ever due to female desperation. I am getting too many matches and messages.

So you will prob not be getting any lay reports due to my situation.

 

[Pandora]

Yeah...Red pill theory was wrong in the end. The wall never came. They just looked for a supply of validation instead.

I also don't like slamming men for being weak. You don't start out strong, you need to be civilized and cultivated into it by the previous generation. And it needs real elite backing. You can't just have a subset of "the people" trying to do it on their own against the will of the upper classes and every institution.

Women used to be barred from owning a credit card, divorcing without approval of the church, and would get dunked in a pond by their local peers for infidelity. Men's groups used to be common and would get special employment and leadership opportunities. Early Americans were allowed to sue their children for disobedience. Today all of these things are banned.

So what backing do men today have to be strong men who have the power of making the final decision? A couple algorithm-suppressed bloggers and youtubers saying words to them and calling them pathetic? Words don't provide much, and hold no power on their own.

Let's say I was the head of, idk, a steel manufacturing labor union where most employees are men. I need to be guaranteed by the state that if I make a decision like "only men can be on the executive board" then that decision is actually respected, no questions asked. But today there are dozens of ways which my authority would get shut out and this is what the state guarantees today.

So for those who like railing on younger men for being weak, what exactly were they supposed to do? Where do they get to practice leadership and gain confidence in their authority? When are their decisions actually respected? Where are they taught that they're expected to be in charge? What institutions will back them up when they face controversy? What laws give them advantages? Where can men come together as an exclusive group to mutually benefit each other? Where can they go to set and enforce standards on their own?
What's the biggest men's group you know of? Does it have actual influence over the rest of society? And are men actually in charge of it, or is there at least one woman on executive staff to police it?

The husband in this story did everything right. He doesn't sound like a weak man, quite the opposite, but everything fell apart regardless. Countless stories like this one.

Bro i totally agree with most of what you say. I agree with the sentiment but you are giving too much leeway to men.

Men are weak because of govt policies, this is true. What is also true is that the majority of men have been weak since the beginning of time. We dont see the weak men because we dont date men.

Most men are not on SoSuave trying to better themselves. Most men people in general are not self aware. You wont believe how many men have serious vice likes extreme alcholism, gambling, strippers etc. We all have our vices but many men are too weak to keep trying to get rid of them.

The average dude does not lift weights, has never been in a fight, is afraid of being confrontational, does not work on his demons, has no spiritual base etc.

Make a profile on online dating as a female and you will see how weird men are. Most men are weird thats why OnlyFans girls can get away with selling farts and bath water.

It took me alot of pain, psychedlics and instrospection to even begin becoming a " good man". Most people dont want to do that.

Btw according to this chick the husband had a severe porn addiction and during sex he asked if she wanted to get railed by another man while he watched. She said that really messed with her self esteem.

She also said that at one point he was down on his luck and was doing Uber and laying around the house all day and not trying to improve.

He was far from perfect.

 

[Pandora]

Not horrifying. Long term monogamy is not compatible with humanity IMO.



Gee I wonder why. Just another dude trying to draw "boundaries" around someone else. Self fulfilling prophecy because of his lack of frame. (Though we don't have his side of the story.)

This guy would fit right in on SS. "I told her not to do it and she did anyway." Filter, people, have some standards.

Yes it seems you are right. Long term monogamy is not compatible with humanity. We fight against this truth. We dont want to accept this. It is too depressing. Maybe I will be the exception lolol.

 

[Pandora]

In a bad actor's hands it becomes an addiction that causes a loss of self-control that cannot be regained.

I struggle with this.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I struggle with this.

You're not alone.

 

[NoBiscuits]

He was far from perfect.

Ok, here's what's going on. You have 4 groups:
D: 10,000,000 drug addicts
C: 100,000 drug dealers
B: 1,000 drug distributors, who support:
A: about 20-100 kingpins (you don't know exactly how many and only the names of a few)

You want to drug problem to be over.

One correct strategy is this, in this order:
Target B to weaken A
Learn more about A, match A's strength
Take out A, make sure no B's become new A's
Some B and most C fall on their own. Several D sober up on their own
Take out remaining B and C, with priority on B.
Sober up remaining D.

You won't sober up all D or get rid of all C, but you can bring the problem down to a comparatively tolerable level. Ok?

Now, what you're trying to do is this:
Sober up random members of D.

Thing is, A can make 10,000 new D every week with 10 effort points each
But you can sober up only 100 members of D every three months with 300 effort points each
After a year, there's a net gain of 518,800 more D.
You've spent 1,200 effort points and A only spent 520.

Now the job is even harder with more D (and likely more C, B, and A too). On top of that, those 1,200 sober D's are just disorganized randos who don't know even each other. You're upset that one D didn't follow the rules of sobriety perfectly and so you put more focus and blame on that D. Meanwhile, A, B, and C are building houses while your attention is at the bottom of the pyramid.

 

[BeExcellent]

Sin is human nature. That is why we have laws. The 10 commandments address adultery in specific. This is not a new problem. Laws are there to deter human nature.

Monogamy is a choice. Not stealing is a choice. Etc.

Character is massively important and affects your relationships. Screen for character.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

I struggle with this.

The original concept was that a lothario could use this ability to manage dopamine releases in a female and manipulate her.

 

[Manure Spherian]

The average dude does not lift weights, has never been in a fight, is afraid of being confrontational, does not work on his demons, has no spiritual base etc.

Most average dudes these days were not raised right. The average man of yesteryear was a better form of average at that time.

Aside from this, the whole notion that men have to be above average is a destructive, gynocentric, feminist and Manospherian meme. Generally speaking, an average man deserves an average woman. It is because of feminism, the enforcer of sexual revolution, that we have the goofy notion that it is the average man’s fault he doesn’t have a woman because he is not slick, 6’2”, a gorillionaire, or a CEO or mafiosi. Yes, there are goofy men out there, but they’d be better in a man-run society. That includes man-run households and classrooms.

 

[Manure Spherian]

I’ll add that feminism has now put men at odds with other men, as they cope with unrestrained hypergamy by striving to be top dogs. Hence I think that’s why lately so many posts are popping up in which some guy proclaims to be better than the next. Examples: “I went back to my hometown and all these guys are married fatsos who aren’t doing anything.” “I work out. I was just at the beach/pool/water park. Fug deez fat guys. I was swimmin’ in hoes.” “All my old married friends are too tired to go out.” And so on and so on.

 

[MatureDJ]

Can you explain how to get a woman's dopamine to spike please, Pierce.

Be a Chad.

 

[MatureDJ]

Avoid Turkish women. They are the least likely to be open to taking it up the ass. Italian women are the most open to anal.

I think the rectum should be reserved for feces and prostate exams.

 

[Pandora]

Most average dudes these days were not raised right. The average man of yesteryear was a better form of average at that time.

Aside from this, the whole notion that men have to be above average is a destructive, gynocentric, feminist and Manospherian meme. Generally speaking, an average man deserves an average woman. It is because of feminism, the enforcer of sexual revolution, that we have the goofy notion that it is the average man’s fault he doesn’t have a woman because he is not slick, 6’2”, a gorillionaire, or a CEO or mafiosi. Yes, there are goofy men out there, but they’d be better in a man-run society. That includes man-run households and classrooms.

I dont know man. I think we have an over idealized view of masculinity. For example how many real friends do you have? How many would you trust not to fyck your gf if no one would ever find out? Very few.

How many men are secure well adjusted people? Maybe only 50% of men.

In the past they still had bad fathers, alchoholics, neglectful husbands, pedos etc.

 

[Manure Spherian]

For example how many real friends do you have? How many would you trust not to fyck your gf if no one would ever find out?

I have six close male friends, all married, who don’t see their friends’ wives as fresh meat. But they’re not the sort of guys who are always jammed up with thinking of or worshipping women. They do not look at women as “fascinating creatures,” as some men describe them.

How many men are secure well adjusted people? Maybe only 50% of men.

I am unsure. But yes, there are loads of clowns out there, largely resulting from the fatherless crisis and matriarchy we have to live with. Imagine how many men grew up with no dad or neglectful dads or abusive or uninvolved stepdads or single moms bringing strangers around? No wonder America has so many alienated and unloved weirdos.

I might not be right. But these are my thoughts.

 

[dueler-x]

I would like to know the opinion of guys dating Turkish women, many of them are good looking but trying to meet them online they were so difficult to engage and not friendly.

 

[Gamisch]

Title might as well be: common story about infidelity ".

At this point every DJ must know that an occupied woman is MUCH easier than a single one. An occupied woman probably is on a dryspell ,crazy as it sounds.

Crazy to think that when I was younger I used to back off when I heard she had a boyfriend. All the while i had many, many women cheat on their boyfriend with me....

If it smells like shyte,and even tastes like shyte..it's probably poop. Hubby knew all along he had a 304 under his wing. She just needed to be exposed to temptation. And hey, that could've been: the gym, the neighbor, the social circle, the bus driver, the handyman, the clerk at the shop,the slvtty friend ect etc. Ect.

There was no stopping her from being a 304 and cheating on him .Its like trying to contain water with a news paper. The real problem is that such a man cannot or refuses to read between the lines.