"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Yes, another topic on hors, sluts, skanks, ect.

There is different views on these types of women.

1.Women who have sex with lots of guys are wh@res. They have no self-respect and are low quality women.

2.They are sexually active just like men. They enjoy it so whats wrong with it?

Now, I believe in the Natural Order of Things. But, I am also being hypocritical and contridicting myself. I've been with my girlfriend for 6 months almost. She has had two serious LTR's and a few FB's on the side when she was single. (They weren't random guys or one night stands.) Now, this was way before we met but didn't really find out about her past sexual encounters til later. Usually, I wouldnt go out with a girl whos been with multiple guys. But, as in the Natural Order of Things. She is submissive and acts how a woman should! I would have no idea she's been around with a few guys judging by her actions. So, this is where I'am questioning myself and some theories.

Where do you draw a line between a hor and a girl who has slept with X amount of guys. Is a hor a girl who fvcks multiple guys, random guys, has one night stands; for pleasure? Yes, I would believe so. Now, can a girl who's been in multiple LTR's and never been unfaith be a non hor? I'am trying to find a balance between a HOR and a WOMAN. Is a virgin the only true and pure woman?? I would like to hear your opions on this topic!

Also, I am interested in LTR's not ONS's or keeping a girl around for a couple weeks. So, what is it that you look for to rule out certin women.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Create Reality said:
what the **** is a pure woman?
I would say a virgin who hasnt had 100 d!cks in her smelly vagina.
 

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well if she had 100 ****s in her vagina she wouldn't be a virgin.

women love sex. it's what they want all day. and LMS, you seriously come off as a pedophile.
 

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a girl who has sex only with guys she has feelings for is normal aka where you draw the line
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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well if she had 100 ****s in her vagina she wouldn't be a virgin.
You know what I ment.

women love sex. it's what they want all day. and LMS, you seriously come off as a pedophile.
No, I am not LMS. I just don't want to be sucked in by HORS!
 

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Look at it this way: If after having such an extensive sexual history this girl were now a single mom, would you call her a hor then? This girl sounds like maybe a high-quality hor, but she's still a hor. She seems submissive and kind to you now, but who can say how long that will last. Hors generelly get tired of guys before long. What were her reasons for breaking up in the past after she had already given herself away?

I most likely wouldn't marry her if I were you, but other than that, do whatever you feel like for now. Just don't set your expectations too high.
 

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ToughLove said:
a girl who has sex only with guys she has feelings for is normal aka where you draw the line
but since when can girls control their feelings lol
they have feelings for everyone
 

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heres a HINT:

if all you AFC's stopped hating on girls so much, maybe you'd actually get some

nobody gives a shyt if the girl is a *****, because WE are all *****s too.....we are all players trying to get that *****

stop the bitterness, BITTERNESS is the #1 reason most guys dont get laid
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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So a girl who has a lot of sex is a nasty "hor", but a guy who does the same is a "DJ"?

Grow up you bitter turds.
 

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Obsidian said:
Look at it this way: If after having such an extensive sexual history this girl were now a single mom, would you call her a hor then? This girl sounds like maybe a high-quality hor, but she's still a hor. She seems submissive and kind to you now, but who can say how long that will last. Hors generelly get tired of guys before long. What were her reasons for breaking up in the past after she had already given herself away?

I most likely wouldn't marry her if I were you, but other than that, do whatever you feel like for now. Just don't set your expectations too high.
She had 2 serious boyfriends and lost her virginity to the first one. First one she broke up with cause of fighting and not getting along. The second guy just grew apart from her and left without much warning. Then, she went on to having some FB's. I don't plan on marrying her. But, are relationship is great. I'd like to stay with her for a couple years and see where it ends up. Its still a little mind bogoling for me to judge whos right for me.
 

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x2 on the two above posts, 10 and 11

stop being hyorcriotes. if you were single... and a hot slut.. started sucking you off in the middle of the club. you wouldnt stop her. of course not unless you have personal problems with your balls then thats a different story.

hoes hors b1tches s1uts... you can call em all u want but WHen you're HORny and its LATE at night... its either you call Vanessa up or you have some alone time. you figure it out.
 

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i happen to know for a fact that bitterness is NOT the #1 reason why guys don't get laid. And I'm not trying to lay hors anyway.

IAFYB -- So she fought with her first lover, just "grew apart" from the second, and then started giving away her body nonchalantly to whoever she felt some attraction for? :rolleyes:

Don't you think you can do any better than this lady? I'm sure she was real "nice" and "submissive" for the first two guys, too, for a while.
 

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Yes, another topic on hors, sluts, skanks, ect.

There is different views on these types of women.

1.Women who have sex with lots of guys are wh@res. They have no self-respect and are low quality women.

2.They are sexually active just like men. They enjoy it so whats wrong with it?

Now, I believe in the Natural Order of Things. But, I am also being hypocritical and contridicting myself. I've been with my girlfriend for 6 months almost. She has had two serious LTR's and a few FB's on the side when she was single. (They weren't random guys or one night stands.) Now, this was way before we met but didn't really find out about her past sexual encounters til later. Usually, I wouldnt go out with a girl whos been with multiple guys. But, as in the Natural Order of Things. She is submissive and acts how a woman should! I would have no idea she's been around with a few guys judging by her actions. So, this is where I'am questioning myself and some theories.

Where do you draw a line between a hor and a girl who has slept with X amount of guys. Is a hor a girl who fvcks multiple guys, random guys, has one night stands; for pleasure? Yes, I would believe so. Now, can a girl who's been in multiple LTR's and never been unfaith be a non hor? I'am trying to find a balance between a HOR and a WOMAN. Is a virgin the only true and pure woman?? I would like to hear your opions on this topic!

Also, I am interested in LTR's not ONS's or keeping a girl around for a couple weeks. So, what is it that you look for to rule out certin women.


You're putting too much thought into this man. Take my suggestion and stop trying to get married. Just because she's submissive and might seem faithful now doesn't mean that she would continue to be this way when a "better man" comes along.


She had 2 serious boyfriends and lost her virginity to the first one. First one she broke up with cause of fighting and not getting along. The second guy just grew apart from her and left without much warning. Then, she went on to having some FB's. I don't plan on marrying her. But, are relationship is great. I'd like to stay with her for a couple years and see where it ends up. Its still a little mind bogoling for me to judge whos right for me.

Do I think your girl is a hor? Yes, in fact I know so. Should you, I or anyone else for that matter even care or judge her? No. Just take her for what she is and have fun. Just don't try to get married or too attatched because as much as you keep denying it you still come off like you want to put a ring around that finger. Relax man!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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As stated in the other thread -- a virgin cannot be a hor and a married woman cannot be a hor for getting sexed by her husband! So it is a woman who has sexual contact with a man who is not her husband!

With that being said, yes, your girl is a hor!! The longer you stay with her the more desensitized you will become to her past and make allowances for her behavior!! I can't believe she had the audacity to tell you she had FB's!!!! Not one but two!! Are you suppose to respect her more for her telling you this? HUh?? If you stay with her for a few years you most likely will marry her - don't get emotionally attached - and don't trust her!!

And yes, I lam attracted to women decades younger than me and for some reason, 60 year old women don't appeal to me - I wonder why? It must be tha natural order of things!!!
 

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As stated in the other thread -- a virgin cannot be a hor and a married woman cannot be a hor for getting sexed by her husband! So it is a woman who has sexual contact with a man who is not her husband!

With that being said, yes, your girl is a hor!! The longer you stay with her the more desensitized you will become to her past and make allowances for her behavior!! I can't believe she had the audacity to tell you she had FB's!!!! Not one but two!! Are you suppose to respect her more for her telling you this? HUh?? If you stay with her for a few years you most likely will marry her - don't get emotionally attached - and don't trust her!!

And yes, I lam attracted to women decades younger than me and for some reason, 60 year old women don't appeal to me - I wonder why? It must be tha natural order of things!!!

everything u say is true, but realize that women do not wait till marriage to get sexed

wome and not hors when they have sex with guys who they have feelings for who COULD possibly be future marriage partners
 

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Damn, I know what you guys are saying is true. But, what bugs the hell out of me is her Interest Level to me is high, she's submissive, we always have fun together with or without sex. So, Im thinking..

1.SHES A MAGICIAN! And its all part of her little act to get something from me.

2.She's just being this way until a better catch comes along.

Or 3.Everything is genuine and she's not like her past...

I guess it's all up to me to find out for myself whether or not its real or fake.
 
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