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For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

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Hookah Bars & House Parties

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jlazz

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Hey, I'm looking for advice on how to get girls at Hookah Bars and House Parties - Keep in mind I'm 17, so the approach might different:

Hookah Bars:

The ones I go to usually have people around the age of 17-21. Last time I went, there were 4 girls sitting at a table across the room that I saw keep looking at my table. Me and my buddies are smoking the hookah and this girl sitting to my left at the table next to us keeps eyeing me, but she's with her guido boyfriend. Anyway, I go to the bathroom and my friend comes along and he hits it off with some girl when I'm taking a piss...I find him outside macking it to her and eventually making out. I go back in and sit down w/ my other friends.

I couldn't think of anything to say or any balls to approach the table across from me and sit down and start talking...

At the table, there were 2 fat chicks HB 4-5 and 1 HB 8.5-9 and the other I couldn't really see.

What are some ****y/funny things you can say to break the ice in a situation like this without making it seem akward. I later find out 1 of my friends knows 1 of the girls sitting there and starts talking to her, we go over and smoke their hookah. I stayed quiet and didn't know what to say really. I'm bad at starting conversations...I usually just coment as one is going on.

Also, how do you isolate a girl you like from her friends. Lets say I wanted to get w/ the HB9, and wanted to bring her outside to talk. How would I do that? Keep in mind, most of the people that come to hookah bars, previously come from clubs where they drank, so once I can get them isolated it would be easy to makeout and # close. My friend was making out w/ the girl 10 minutes later and she wanted to **** him...she kept SMSing him telling him to come to a place, but she looked sketchy.

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House Parties:

Tonight, I'm probably going to a house party in my friend's house where I barely know any of the people there. I've met a few guys and few girls from previous get togethers, but other than that I don't know many of the people that will probably be there.

How do you start up a convo with a girl there...the girls in his town are mostly HB 8-9's and rich. I come from a few towns away that isn't rich.

I'm usually shy at parties especially when I don't know many people other than my buddy who I went with. He knows everyone there so he's comfortable.

I also usually feel uncomfortable at parties because I don't go to many, so its outside of my comfort zone.

I recently brokeup w/ my ex so I want to at least #close 1 of the girls or makeout/possibly hookup with 1. I need to get back out there, but all my game has diminished since my breakup.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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ethnomethodologist

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Originally posted by jlazz
no1 has any advice?...
They don't want you to cry;)

Jlazz, grow some balls. Stop being a chicken sh!t. Stop being scared. "Just do it"

You are being a little punk man, stop wussing out. You KNOW you have the smarts to stand up and just go over to talk to the girl. If you are smotth enough, you can get her to tell you to go outside with her, or you can game her while sitting with your friends. Notice something real about her, that she would want to isolate you for knowing.

Same goes for the house party, but it is so much easier there.
 

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Originally posted by ethnomethodologist
They don't want you to cry;)

Jlazz, grow some balls. Stop being a chicken sh!t. Stop being scared. "Just do it"

You are being a little punk man, stop wussing out. You KNOW you have the smarts to stand up and just go over to talk to the girl. If you are smotth enough, you can get her to tell you to go outside with her, or you can game her while sitting with your friends. Notice something real about her, that she would want to isolate you for knowing.

Same goes for the house party, but it is so much easier there.
Its not so much about being a *****...moreso what to say? I used to be able to say anything, but nowadays nothing comes to mind when I'm in a convo..i'm boring now ever since I brokeup w/ my gf...

I'm just looking for some good things to say to get **** rolling.
 

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Well I don't know what you want me to say? Want me to explain to you the dynamics of what people have been saying to eachother for eons?

I say, you want something interesting to say, say anything... I've had girls wrapped around my fingers by having the balls and knowing everybody was bored ****less, by going up and commenting on their hat, and than explaining myself by saying everybody seems bored. I take evrything I have in seduction to bascally telling the truth. If I am bored, I try to make it fun, and not give a crap if thats all that happening... people being bored, if tahts all that's happening.

It's so different I guess, between all the writers who join this site, and guys like me, who graduate with a 51 in English. I hate immersion and being a second class person for my second language being english sometimes.

Okay... you see the girl staring at you, all of your friends are saying nothing... what do you do?

Walk up to her, sit down beside her, and say "HEY!" As long as you have a plan, she usually can;t ruin it. If you do have a plan, and she starts to ruin it, tell her, it will only add to the fun, and she realizes she is now playing a game.

I know that won't conform to 95% of the people on this site... but stop being a chicken will.

So be a man, just go talk to her. Go talk to her, say anything. Don't be afraid of pissing her off, just be afraid of yourself. Be afraid of YOU not saying at least SOMETHING!
 

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She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Please read the DJ Bible, as it explains everything from "how to break the ice" to "how to isolate a girl". After this, try doing a search - the questions you've asked have been answered time after time after time.

Oh, and please post in the right section. Moved to DJD, closed.
 
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