"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Furyguy

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Shut up. Go out and say hi to ten women. Report back.
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I don't think he was joking. Where's your report?

Seriously. You see anyone else around here with better advice?

I'm sure you've played a sport at some point in your life. The coach tells you how to do something, you don't say "No coach I think my way's better." Your was ISN'T better, dumb****, that's why you've entrusted the coach to show you the proper way to do things.

Put up the full report, or you will be forever deemed a useless subhuman non-person.

I will do it with you if you want. We can make it a forum-wide event and call it the Crusader08 '09 Challenge. Winners can receive the title of 'NOT A PUSSY.'
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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So,what I have realized,yet still put up with,was that my own angner/stubborness,got me nowhere,and the only way is the suggested methods right? And my own sense of alienation or whatever just fuels this even more. Of course,I have a tendency to say break away from whatever the suggested is,just a habit. I never liked taking orders/being told what to do,so growing up,I had alot of problems. I also did things I am not too happy about,did I just screw myself over socially?
 
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There is no confusing this fact: NO woman wants a depressive, lazy, excuse-making, drag of a human being, with no sense of self love or self worth. Not the ugly ones, and not even the fat ones..
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^^So true... if you are depressed most women will sense it and be tuned of before you even start running game on them... YOu must project a positive happy image to females. Some women will think you are ugly cause you project an ugly vibe to them... FEmales are very sensitive and able to detect and reject to broken weak depressed males.
 
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That's another thing I worry/have worried about, the whole projection thing. In all honesty,I am mostly a bitter,pissed off,hates everyone person. Sure,I have a freindly easygoing humourous side,but depending on my mood,the littlest thing can get me going.

I never really even thought about how much people sense things till I read this site. Esp with women. It's all about projection,is that more than say,physical attraction? Thing is,I never learned how to "run game",and always hated the guys that bragged about it,in all honesty,I am more of a romantic at heart,but realize the reality of certain things. As in,overdoing it in some sort of obsessive way is kind of creepy,not that I ever was like that,but I realize you don't do that. I hate the idea of just walking around with a smiley face like everything is allright. That is so fake to me,and I could or ever would see myself doing that. If one is depressed,they are automatically weak/broken? As opposed to what exactly?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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DonJuan11

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CapedCrusader08 said:
I never really even thought about how much people sense things till I read this site. Esp with women. It's all about projection,is that more than say,physical attraction? Thing is,I never learned how to "run game",and always hated the guys that bragged about it,in all honesty,I am more of a romantic at heart,but realize the reality of certain things. As in,overdoing it in some sort of obsessive way is kind of creepy,not that I ever was like that,but I realize you don't do that. I hate the idea of just walking around with a smiley face like everything is allright. That is so fake to me,and I could or ever would see myself doing that. If one is depressed,they are automatically weak/broken? As opposed to what exactly?
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Why don't you have your parents stop paying for everything. They support you and they should stop taking care of you. Just because you have rich parents doesn't mean you should be use it.
 
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Thank god you're actually calling a therapist. Here's my advice to you this time. Stop asking questions of why you 'think' the way you do. We don't know, only you do.

The reason for this, is that you need to take action. To change your way of thinking, only then, we can help you along the way.
 
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First off,I am not rich ok. I live/have lived in a normal middle class house my whole life ok,I live at home yes,but pay for my own stuff,bills,clothes,entertainment,etc. I am/have been concerned about how much living at home all this time,while everyone else was seemingly going off on they're own,has affected me. Ideally,I would like to move up in life,to have reached the top so to say. Is that an ego thing?

So then it is me,my thinking,etc. It is beyond my control perhaps,maybe a therapist can help me put things into perspective. How do I change my thinking? How do I make a more positive reality,when I wake up every day feeling miserable? Is that why some people have more success than others,or others are just more attractive? For me,it's this whole why and what if? It's isolation/loneliness,and very misanthropic feelings.

I mean,I am so used to this not getting laid thing,that maybe I don't even have that much interest,and I only think I do. And it's been going on for so long,I can't even put a plan together,well, I did,a few years ago,when I got laid for the first time,and was that a learning experience. But now,as I get older,I feel more and more inexperienced and behind. At least this guy here,http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=155971 , has a plan.

I also think/wonder about how much all of this has to do with isolation,and overcoming nervousness/anxiety,cause like it said in there,girls are turned off by nervousness. My own worry/nervousness from inexperience,something I just haven't gotten over. I mean,maybe I just haven't been in enough situations where I have thew confidence enough to just go for it. Plus,why are girls so worried about being percieved as sluts when they engage in such behavior time to time,even from rather young ages?
 
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Nobody even reads your posts anymore.

Just shut the fvck up man. Nobody cares about your life. G0ddamn
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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CapedCrusader08 said:
First off,I am not rich ok. I live/have lived in a normal middle class house my whole life ok,I live at home yes,but pay for my own stuff,bills,clothes,entertainment,etc. I am/have been concerned about how much living at home all this time,while everyone else was seemingly going off on they're own,has affected me. Ideally,I would like to move up in life,to have reached the top so to say. Is that an ego thing?
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No it's a lazy thing. You like living at home so you don't pay rent and have your parents pay for you. That is called rich and girls hate guys who have their parents pay for their rent. It has nothing to do with rejection / anxiety/ can't get past your fears about girls. It's about you collecting money and not paying rent because you parents will pay it for you.

Middle class is rich nowadays.
 
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