"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Honest opinion on this situation from last night..

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Hey whats up? Just want a honest, non-biased opinion about the situation.

Last night I went out with this girl for the first time. We had dinner together..and things were going well. But then I made the mistake, of making plans with my friends to meet up afterwards at a club(mistake meaning I should have isolated her, and taken her to a quite bar). Like one of my friends said,"Never bring sand to the beach"...:yes:

Anywayz...to make a long story short...this girl showed some considerable interest in my closest guy, who was there. Now, she didnt out-right flirt with him, or show any dis-respect(towards me), but it was pretty obvious she was interested...by the little cues that I picked up on. "Should I try to go out again..and close something in a few dates? Because at this point it becomes a question of pride on my part. And I honestly want to nail her....but it hit my ego a bit. And to make it worse....how do i know I can close this with the least amount of effort(which I dont want to put into it after this), because she might be into my friend.

Dont misunderstand..I was getting good vibes all night, and towards the end of the night...I got drunk and showed a bit of jealousy(it showed in my face) because the girl grabbed me hand, and asked me,"are you ok?

But the question again is..should I attempt to close in a few dates(because I am thinking way too much about it,and throw pride out the window,which is what my friend said, because he showed no interest in her)....or should I drop it, because it may go nowhere?<-------I just got out of a really long relationship, and am very rusty to the dating game....so it may take more time and energy then is necessary, which is what Im worried about!!!

Thx-
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Yea bad idea, bringing a date to a club. You meet them at the club.
At least it was your friend and you didn't get totally out gamed like i did to some guy last nite... lol

Just make sure they never bump into each other, ever again. :)
Ohh and don't get too worked up over this... just keep your cool in these kinds of situations.
You're gonna have to work on your self control a bit.

I guess the anwser to your question is.. get her drunk at your place. Then see what happens.
 

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Play the Game said:
Yea bad idea, bringing a date to a club. You meet them at the club.

Yeah, you are absoutley right. That was the biggest mistake of the night....and I should have know better. I ended turning the situation into something that it wasnt. And ended up getting the short end of the stick.


At least it was your friend and you didn't get totally out gamed like i did to some guy last nite... lol

Just make sure they never bump into each other, ever again. :)
Ohh and don't get too worked up over this... just keep your cool in these kinds of situations.
You're gonna have to work on your self control a bit.

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hahah..I dont want you to think I was a maniac...it was just in that moment that I showed a sign of weakness. And I think that was a big mistake as well..because she caught up on that(meaning saw the cue, so now she can use it toward her advantage).

I guess the anwser to your question is.. get her drunk at your place. Then see what happens.
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Thats the problem...I got a ****ing roomate..who is always ****ing homeeeee! But one good thing is that this girl is here studying and lives alone.....and if I can situate myself back in her place...I should be able to close, if I play my cards right. If there is even a next time......today I should get a follow up courtesy call, from the girl. I will see what happens.
 

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Play the Game said:
Yea bad idea, bringing a date to a club. You meet them at the club.

At least it was your friend and you didn't get totally out gamed like i did to some guy last nite... lol

Just make sure they never bump into each other, ever again. :)
Ohh and don't get too worked up over this... just keep your cool in these kinds of situations.
You're gonna have to work on your self control a bit.
I guess the anwser to your question is.. get her drunk at your place. Then see what happens.
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Yeah, you are absoutley right. That was the biggest mistake of the night....and I should have know better. I ended turning the situation into something that it wasnt. And ended up getting the short end of the stick.

Hahah..I dont want you to think I was a maniac...it was just in that moment that I showed a sign of weakness. And I think that was a big mistake as well..because she caught up on that(meaning saw the cue, so now she can use it toward her advantage).

Thats the problem...I got a ****ing roomate..who is always ****ing homeeeee! But one good thing is that this girl is here studying and lives alone.....and if I can situate myself back in her place...I should be able to close, if I play my cards right. If there is even a next time......today I should get a follow up courtesy call, from the girl. I will see what happens.

Thx for the words~
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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We all get screwed over our first time. No matter how good your game is, there's always someone who's better.

Hey, some troll says i failed at "date raping" a drunk chick last nite lol.
It's not going stop me from trying again. :p

The thing is to accept what happened and don't let it affect your self esteem and confidence.
 
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