Holding your own with women as you get older

[STR8UP]

Just met the new owner of a strip club that I do business with.

Pretty cool guy,probably late 40's, at least semi attractive I suppose.

I was talking to him about some business stuff and he mentioned that he owns numerous strip clubs throughout the US/ Carribbean. He was talking about a new girl that he had hired that is supposedly pretty damn hot, and he said "I think I'm going to take her to bike week with me".

He mentioned that being in the strip club business has its "fringe benefits".

He seems like he does well with it, so I don't think he's 100% in it for the pu$$y, but it got me thinking about how doing certain things in your life can keep you "in the women", so to speak.

I guess Hef would be the ultimate example. Who knows how much his "girlfriends" "love" him, but everyone seems to be happy enough getting what they want from the situation. (Yea, I watched the show a couple of times, you got a problem with that?)

Of course the status thing can keep the younger women chasing you well into older age (actors, musicians, politicians, CEO's).

But what else can keep a man in the game indefinitely?

Is it "wrong" to try to retain desirability by cultivating status or being involved in a certain kind of business?

What if the women are merely a "byproduct"?

 

[joekerr31]

to be honest with you i'm not really sure why hef keeps doing it.

honestly, after you've banged like a 1000 models, i think sex would get REALLY boring.

i think hef gets a kick out of being the world most notorious playboy more than he does out of banging chics.

i also think the majority of the satisfaction he gets when he looks back on his life is that he ran a successful business.

for most men the idea of having an endless string of beauties to screw sounds like paradise. but i'd bet you anything that after say 5 years of it, it would get pretty boring.

anything in excess loses its appeal if you ask me.

 

[M_D]

I think Hef stopped enjoying sex like 20 years ago. I believe that was the last time he could actually experience any sort of pleasurable sensation.

 

[Scot McKay]

I think what we often miss as younger guys is how the decisions we make early one affect our lives later. What we set ourselves up for in terms of our habits, career direction and lifestyle choices largely determines what things will be like when we get older.

If you want an endless string of strippers, own strip clubs.

If you want a wife and kids, make sure you have a great woman.

If you want to get married early, divorce her and trade her in on a "newer model" in your late thirties, make sure you spend all the money before it becomes community property.

You know, choices.

 

[-HPNOTIQ-]

Is it "wrong" to try to retain desirability by cultivating status or being involved in a certain kind of business?

What if the women are merely a "byproduct"?

I used to see a hot chick with an ugly dude riding in a Porsche and think to myself, 'man, the only reason she is with him is because he's probably loaded with money'. I mean come on, how many of us has thought that before? Its common. We've all had situations where we've said to ourselves, 'If that guy didn't have money, or he wasn't a doctor, or he didn't work at Microsoft, or he didn't own that strip club, or he didn't have that nice body - then I bet that girl wouldn't be with him'.

We've all felt these things before. I know I have.

But, I've realized that most of these guys with money, status, or a nice body worked damn hard to earn those things. So why should he have to apologize if getting hot women are the by-product of it?

Your buddy who owns the strip club probably has a lot of other guys saying 'man, if he didn't own a strip club...then he'd get no p*ssy'. But, I'm sure you buddy busted his a-hole promoting that club, stressed with owning a business, stressed with the law, stressed with hiring staff - after all this stress, why shouldn't he get some fringe benefits? In my opinion, he's earned it.

Sometimes we have to respect the other guy's game. More times than not, that guy worked hard at the gym 5 days a week to get that nice body. He went to college 6-8 years to earn that degree to land that high paying job. He maybe ugly, but he was on the sosuave website reading about ONS, KINO, cold P/Us, and PUAs. And if any of those guys used what they have to their advantage to get women....they've earned it.

 

[-HPNOTIQ-]

Of course the status thing can keep the younger women chasing you well into older age (actors, musicians, politicians, CEO's).

But what else can keep a man in the game indefinitely?

I've thought about this myself. And I realized social proof goes a LONNG way in this. Let me explain.

We all know that social proof is important in attracting women. But as we become mature DJs, we tend to care less and less about what people think of us. We may go out less, work longer hours, lose contact with friends, stop going to the gym - in essence, we are no longer sharpening the sword. We've gotten more comfortable in our little world, our cliques, and our safe people...that we forget to try new things, meet new people, and open up our social network. Which in many cases, opens up our social proof.

I have a single buddy of mine that's a 36 year old dental assistant by day, but a couple times a night (while other guys are going home watching TV), he's a bouncer at a local nighclub/casino. Sure, having a job as a dental assistant boring with no opportunity to meet women, but, his night job introduces him to a LOT of women. He has many connections at other night clubs, never pays cover, and gets his drinks for free. He's opened up his social proof and through working at this club, he's extremely comfortable around women and people in general.

I say, if you want to stay in the game as you get older, do things to improve your social proof with the ladies:

*Learn how to bartend and work at your buddy's strip club.
*Become a personal trainer on the weekends, and earn social proof with the hot women at your gym.
*Learn how to salsa dance, join a dance group, become that guy all the women want to dance with.

I'm actually looking into learning how to bartend. Iits a great way to learn a cool skill, impress your friends (and the ladies), stay in the nightclub/bar scene without being that creepy 40 year old guy trying to dance with the 21 year olds, bump your social proof, and even earn a little cash on the side.

 

[MrLuvr]

scene without being that creepy 40 year old guy trying to dance with the 21 year olds, bump your social proof, and even earn a little cash on the side.

Interested that men on here would propagate a word like "creepy" which is basically nothing but hate speech against men and used by women against us for any behaviour that does not meet their approval.

 

[ketostix]

Interested that men on here would propagate a word like "creepy" which is basically nothing but hate speech against men and used by women against us for any behaviour that does not meet their approval.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. This word "creepy" which no one can really define has now entered the conciousness and acceptance of everyone. It's really the ultimate way to shame men for even having a sexuality. The stupid part is if you really are a "creepy" douchebag of a guy as long as your young and handsome enough women like it and would never call you a creep.

It's just a derogatory label women can use to shame guys that doesn't even have to be based on any real behavior or anything. So it pisses me off so much. It's like in the 70's every guy was "uncool", in the 80's every guy was a "nerd", 90's every guy's a "stalker" (at least that was somewhat based on behavior) now every guy is "creepy".

older=creepy!
not handsome=creepy!
not an AFC=creepy!
say a wrong word=creepy!
look at her the wrong way=creepy!
Shy=creepy!
persistent=creepy!

You get the idea..but how women do this now that IS creepy.

 

[st_99]

To the OP, owning strip clubs is fine and dandy from a money/business perspective but I definitely wouldn't get any type of satisfaction bang'n strippers and taking them on trips.. Sorry, but 99.9% of strippers are dirty coke heads. Some dude I knew (ex dealer) used to bang strippers left and right.

 

[jophil28]

It's just a derogatory label women can use to shame guys that doesn't even have to be based on any real behavior or anything.
older=creepy!
not handsome=creepy!
not an AFC=creepy!
say a wrong word=creepy!
look at her the wrong way=creepy!
Shy=creepy!
persistent=creepy!

You get the idea..but how women do this now that IS creepy.

Women nowadays commonly use shaming tactics to CONTROL men's behavior.
Insults, humiliation, ridicule and shaming are all in frequent use by femmes to CONTROL behavior that women deem to be socially or personally unacceptable.
The problem really exists now because we men have ALLOWED them to do it and we have not jumped on them for the inherent disrespect that is always present in theoir tactics.

Hence " Everybody loves Raymond " is now a Comedy instead of the Tragedy it is (or should be )

 

[STR8UP]

to be honest with you i'm not really sure why hef keeps doing it.

I admire the hell out of the guy. He seems like he would be an interesting person to have a chat with about life in general.

He's obviously an extreme example of what I am taking about. An dI would bet that the women on his arm at this point in his life have more to do with keeping up an image than anything.

Which brings me to the reason why he's still at it.

I'd say it's in his blood. He has basically BECOME Playboy.

As much as I say that if I hit it really big I would quit working and just travel the world, but if I has persevered as Hef has, doing something I was passionate about, I would probably still be doing it till I die, just like Hef seems to be doing.

honestly, after you've banged like a 1000 models, i think sex would get REALLY boring.

I've never really understood the appeal of having sex with that many women, but I suppose if it was thrown at me at every turn I might do the same thing.

It's a lot different when it falls in your lap.

for most men the idea of having an endless string of beauties to screw sounds like paradise. but i'd bet you anything that after say 5 years of it, it would get pretty boring.

anything in excess loses its appeal if you ask me.

I would never do anything specifically for the sake of getting women, but if it's a by-product, more power to ya.

I find this all interesting because I'm kind of headed that way myself. My business dealings have taken me in the direction of having established a certain amount of status, and my marketing revolves around young hotties. I'm getting more involved with models (including strippers) and video production, so everything is kind of a natural fit where the end result is that if I had more social time I could cultivate quite an interesting new social circle, should I be so inclined.

My thing is that stuff sounds appealing on the surface, but I don't even go o the strip club I do business with very often. If I did I would be treated like a total VIP and I could be banging strippers in no time. Maybe I'm just getting older and can do without the drama, but I would rather spend most of my time outside of that element, even though I have the option to do so.

Then again, maybe I should take my cues from Hef and do it for the sake of the business

 

[Latinoman]

Just met the new owner of a strip club that I do business with.

Pretty cool guy,probably late 40's, at least semi attractive I suppose.

I was talking to him about some business stuff and he mentioned that he owns numerous strip clubs throughout the US/ Carribbean. He was talking about a new girl that he had hired that is supposedly pretty damn hot, and he said "I think I'm going to take her to bike week with me".

He mentioned that being in the strip club business has its "fringe benefits".

He seems like he does well with it, so I don't think he's 100% in it for the pu$$y, but it got me thinking about how doing certain things in your life can keep you "in the women", so to speak.

I guess Hef would be the ultimate example. Who knows how much his "girlfriends" "love" him, but everyone seems to be happy enough getting what they want from the situation. (Yea, I watched the show a couple of times, you got a problem with that?)

Of course the status thing can keep the younger women chasing you well into older age (actors, musicians, politicians, CEO's).

But what else can keep a man in the game indefinitely?

Is it "wrong" to try to retain desirability by cultivating status or being involved in a certain kind of business?

What if the women are merely a "byproduct"?

Are you talking about being "desired" by wh_ores and strippers or by GOOD women?

 

[Latinoman]

Women nowadays commonly use shaming tactics to CONTROL men's behavior.
Insults, humiliation, ridicule and shaming are all in frequent use by femmes to CONTROL behavior that women deem to be socially or personally unacceptable.
The problem really exists now because we men have ALLOWED them to do it and we have not jumped on them for the inherent disrespect that is always present in theoir tactics.

Hence " Everybody loves Raymond " is now a Comedy instead of the Tragedy it is (or should be )

I agree 100% with you.

 

[drmeathead]

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. This word "creepy" which no one can really define has now entered the conciousness and acceptance of everyone. It's really the ultimate way to shame men for even having a sexuality. The stupid part is if you really are a "creepy" douchebag of a guy as long as your young and handsome enough women like it and would never call you a creep.

It's just a derogatory label women can use to shame guys that doesn't even have to be based on any real behavior or anything. So it pisses me off so much. It's like in the 70's every guy was "uncool", in the 80's every guy was a "nerd", 90's every guy's a "stalker" (at least that was somewhat based on behavior) now every guy is "creepy".

older=creepy!
not handsome=creepy!
not an AFC=creepy!
say a wrong word=creepy!
look at her the wrong way=creepy!
Shy=creepy!
persistent=creepy!

You get the idea..but how women do this now that IS creepy.

the old saying holds true...when a woman is in love with a man he can do no wrong...when a woman falls out of love with a man he can do no right

 

[STR8UP]

Are you talking about being "desired" by wh_ores and strippers or by GOOD women?

Women in general.

 

[STR8UP]

the old saying holds true...when a woman is in love with a man he can do no wrong...when a woman falls out of love with a man he can do no right

Which ties in with my theory on "love" itself.

A woman will "love" you only as long as you are able to elicit emotion. She doesn't love YOU, she loves the chemical rush that is induced from the feelings you give her.

 

[Latinoman]

Women in general.

You must define the type of woman you want...and based on that...your success rate will be based on what you are doing either with your career or your hobbies.

 

[drmeathead]

Which ties in with my theory on "love" itself.

A woman will "love" you only as long as you are able to elicit emotion. She doesn't love YOU, she loves the chemical rush that is induced from the feelings you give her.

yup just a like junkie seeking a fix they will go to no end to get what they want. so as long as u are what the want they yippie for you. once they dont want yuo look out...u get fat, bald, small in both the wallet and the pants, and they feel they dont owe you anything for one superficially justified reason or another

 

[jophil28]

TE=STR8UP]

A woman will "love" you only as long as you are able to elicit emotion. She doesn't love YOU, she loves the chemical rush that is induced from the feelings you give her.[/QUOTE]

THis is the absolute truth.
Brain chemicals are what she is into NOT you as a human being .. Women fall in love with the WAY THAT YOU MAKE THEM FEEL. .You are only the trigger, which is why nice guys get the slide - no chemical rush. Women will tell you this truth openly - She says " I am looking for chemistry with a man". That means her brain chemistry. .
If you slack off and go sit on the couch she starts to look elsewhere for another man to give her a rush . Shallow ain't they ?