"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Hitting on people younger than you

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Was just out shopping with my little sister for a birthday present for my dad and saw something pretty interesting.

Me and her had just sat down in the food court to eat and the table across from it had 4 girls on it, they couldn't have been older than 14/15 sitting around talking, texting and all that **** girls their age do. Anyway along comes a guy who's got to be at least my age (20) with a friend who introduce themselves, and get talking to them.

These girls lap it all up, the stupid jokes and friendly banter. My sister and I are quietly laughing at the whole thing, mainly because these two guys were so much older than the girls it was unreal. The guys go to leave after getting all 4 numbers and giving them all hugs. It looked pretty pathetic honestly, but still the girls giggled and waved them off. As they left, and were out of sight they high fived and continued on their way.

For the next 5 minutes until me and my sister finished eating all we could hear where these girls giggling about the two guys they had just met.

Now the question I want to ask the younger DJ's here is would you consider hitting on a group of girls much younger than yourself? I myself couldn't think of anything worse than opening a group of young girls.

For the older DJ's, is it still the same once you get older, is it weird/wrong/funny to hit on much younger women? I imagine that it is not too bad.

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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I could imagine opening on teenage girls in that kind of setting could be hell.
But wtf?
A 20 year old getting the digits of 14 year old girls? That's some pedo stuff going on right there.
Anyway. Unless you have the newest phone, are in 1D or have the most "Hip" clothes, how exactly do you demonstrate high value to girls this young?
 

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As a 55 year old who is extremely well-preserved, I can only go after significantly younger women. Women my age seem to be so ancient to me that I feel absolutely zero attraction for them. I do draw the line at 15, of course. :)

My comfortable age range is 31 to 44, but the 44s, need to be very well preserved to get my interest.
 

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Atom Smasher said:
As a 55 year old who is extremely well-preserved, I can only go after significantly younger women. Women my age seem to be so ancient to me that I feel absolutely zero attraction for them.
Or, as they used to ask George Burns: "Why don't you date girls your own age?". And his answer would be "There are no girls my age".

Of course you'd have to be as ancient as we are to even know who George Burns was, most likely.
 

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Atom Smasher said:
As a 55 year old who is extremely well-preserved, I can only go after significantly younger women. Women my age seem to be so ancient to me that I feel absolutely zero attraction for them. I do draw the line at 15, of course. :)

My comfortable age range is 31 to 44, but the 44s, need to be very well preserved to get my interest.
WELL PRESERVED LOLOL! that the funniest thing i have ever read. Meh my friend does this sh1t. I think its because he looks like hes 12 but he goes for the 14-15 year olds ... hes 19 going on to be 20 in a month. All my other boys are like dude what the hell are you doing? I duno I wouldnt do it, and thats all that matters
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Yeah man, I don't know what it is... It seems I've drunk from the fountain of youth but I don't know when or how.

Honestly, though, I do think that I was emotionally arrested as a teenager or pre-teen and it took me a long, long time to grow up. That leads to immaturity and youthful preservation. That's my best theory, anyway.

These 20 year olds go for the easy kill IMO. The girls are particularly receptive to "older men" at that age and they get their attention fix in the interaction, as do the males. I remember when I was 19/20 and noticed a lot of attention from that age group.
 

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zekko said:
Or, as they used to ask George Burns: "Why don't you date girls your own age?". And his answer would be "There are no girls my age".

Of course you'd have to be as ancient as we are to even know who George Burns was, most likely.
Let us hasten to add that George was not our contemporary. ;)

He was one funny dude. I liked the way he had fun with his age by telling jokes like that.

Zekko, can you imagine being twenty years old with the knowledge we have accumulated over the years? I wonder what that would be like...
 

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Let us hasten to add that George was not our contemporary. ;)

He was one funny dude. I liked the way he had fun with his age by telling jokes like that.

Zekko, can you imagine being twenty years old with the knowledge we have accumulated over the years? I wonder what that would be like...
you couldve had all the information in the world, but if you didnt apply it then it woudlve been worthless. That whole bit about "i wish i knew this years ago..." seems far fetched to me. Your mindset is completely different, more developed as you get older. Making it easier to apply new information. Theres a big different between a 19 year olds brain and a 26 year olds brain. Thats like saying, "if I knew google was going to take off when it opened at 50$ and then shot up to 500$ within a couple hours i wouldve bought all the shares!" but you at a younger age wouldnt even be thinking about stocks, youd be busy doing other things. Hence why I have to disagree with that argument Atom.
 

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Young feller, I'm not making an argument. I'm saying I wonder what it would be like... what would the ramifications be? What if emotional maturity matched intellectual, and what if emotional was at age 20 and intellectual was at 55?

What I'm NOT saying is that I wish it were so. It's just a thought experiment in order to attain insight into human nature.
 

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Young feller, I'm not making an argument. I'm saying I wonder what it would be like... what would the ramifications be? What if emotional maturity matched intellectual, and what if emotional was at age 20 and intellectual was at 55?

What I'm NOT saying is that I wish it were so. It's just a thought experiment in order to attain insight into human nature.
Argument was a bad word then :p Ohhh okie, i just read that wrong then. In that case ... mothers and fathers hide your daughters!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Whelp, time to quit the game at my college and start sarging at the nearest high school...

Sh1t, did I just say that in public? They all told me they were 18, I swear!
 

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If they flirt then it's ok. Let her decide you are too old.
 

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Zekko, can you imagine being twenty years old with the knowledge we have accumulated over the years? I wonder what that would be like...
I have to admit that this has crossed my mind more than a few times. It would be great to combine the wisdom and experience that comes with age along with the drive and energy of youth. But maybe the journey is more important than the destination.

Also, if I knew that much about attraction back then, who knows what might have happened? Maybe I would have ended up getting a girl pregnant or some other disaster, like getting married young, or catching an STD. Maybe things happen the way they do for a reason.

I remember reading something Muhammad Ali said. He said his Parkinson's disease was a blessing in a way because if he didn't have it, he would probably give in to the temptation of screwing around and it would ruin his marriage.

I've also been told that I look younger than I am, and I would also say that I matured late. Maybe there's some sort of cosmic balance in that somewhere, I don't know.
 

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Atom Smasher said:
As a 55 year old who is extremely well-preserved, I can only go after significantly younger women. Women my age seem to be so ancient to me that I feel absolutely zero attraction for them. I do draw the line at 15, of course. :)
I thought this might be the case with you more refined men :D . It always seemed this way to me going through grade school, it was weird if you went out with a girl 2 years below you, but if you went out with somebody 2 years older it was perfectly fine, at that younger age it was even encouraged haha.

As I've got a little older I see things like this happening more and more, with the guys going for younger and younger women. A couple of my friends now have boyfriends in the 26/7 range and looking at most of my friends parents, the father is normally older than the mother.

Is it a maturity thing. Is it that I see myself as too mature for these girls, even though I still think of myself as a massively immature guy amongst people my own age? I know a woman of 26 or so would probably think of me as too immature to be dateable.

[/QUOTE=bigneil]If they flirt then it's ok. Let her decide you are too old.[/QUOTE]

I've got to disagree here neil. Just because a girl flirts with you doesn't mean it's ok to go for it, no matter her age. I've had girls my own age with boyfriends flirt with me, but in my eyes it wouldn't be ok to try it on with them. Maybe my morals are still a tad untainted as I'm still going through the motions of getting with women, but to me it just doesn't seem justifyable.

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That's some borderline Paedo goings on right there. 20 year old lads hitting on minors is just disgusting.

I am 23 and I seem to mostly attract younger women, this year I attracted a few 16,17,18 and 19 year olds, but these girls were just too young and immature for me.

I'm into women my own age or a little older, I tried getting with a 27 year old over the summer, but nothing materialised for reasons I am unaware of.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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70 years ago and FOR MOST OF HUMAN HISTORY ...it was absolutely expected that a single financially well off man of age 50 would find a young maiden of age 16-18 to be his bride and bear him children.

since then men have turned into shameful, self hating faggots who have no clue how to live.
 
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Burroughs said:
70 years ago and FOR MOST OF HUMAN HISTORY ...it was absolutely expected that a single financially well off man of age 50 would find a young maiden of age 16-18 to be his bride and bear him children.

since then men have turned into shameful, self hating faggots who have no clue how to live.
Were you born in Afghanistan by any chance?
 

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Were you born in Afghanistan by any chance?
were you born with a vagina by any chance faggot :crackup:
 

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u mad 'perseverance' :up:
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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