"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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ketostix said:
Except you could hardly compare women's past to being enslaved.
actually, most early american settler women felt every enslaved.
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Besides I don't think women had such a bad deal in the past.
share your thoughts...
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A lot of men had to serve in military and die in wars. You could make plenty of arguments for why men deserve "priviledges".
i am sure the privileges that they got were getting to be the head of the household, managing all monies, getting to choose the religion of their family and an occupation, getting to have an education, some being able to have more than one wife and not having to control sexual desires as much as women had to


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Actually I solve the whole delimma in one sentence when it comes to relations between women and men: Women are by nature takers and not givers.
what do women have a history of taking? what do women not have a history of giving?
 

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Last Man Standing said:
Kitty Kat what is your point? Men not only rule women but also rule the earth! Men butcher, kill, plunder, rape - we are not better than women - we are worst!! We just are men being men!
bah. women would do the same thing if they were in power.

women rape other women in prison (oh ya, giggidy giggidy giggidy ;) )

women murder their husbands, children, etc.

women do all the bad things that men do. but because most of the powerful positions in the world (ie. controlling armies, countries, economies, etc.) are in men's hands, they are the ones causing the BIG problems.

but trust me, for every evil and sadistic man out there, theres a woman just as evil and sadistic.
 

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let me hime in.


the purpose of this thread is not a history of women, it is supposed to show a connection in lieu to women and being as feminist as they are, which it does not.
 

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Y'know, if you read a lot of ancient literature, you can find all kindsa stuff relating to men's frustration with wives.

It probably wasn't SO different. There's a biblical verse along the lines of; "Better to live in a cave alone than under the roof with a quarrelsome woman."


(Pen's still ignoring my earlier post, BTW.)
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penkitten said:
what do women have a history of taking? what do women not have a history of giving?
aside from sex women have never given me anything.

actually i take that back, i have one female friend who is awesome. cooks for me. backs me up. etc. and my mother also gave to me things like love.

but women in general? sh*t. most women give men nothing but a headache.

you ever see a dork go up to some hot chic and ask her out, and then she just crushes him with her rejection - gets that look of 'ohhhh mahhhh gawdddd. i can't believe you'd think i'd go out with you."

women give when there is something for them to get in return. most men are this way also.
 

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You answered that ONE line from him and ignored what I've asked?
Hilarious, Pen!!!!!!
i already answered you the first time.
if you do not want to participate in this thread, why are you?
 

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I AM participating!!!!! I wanna!!! I like it!!!

What do the ancient injustices have to do with me and the coed?

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Y'know, if you read a lot of ancient literature, you can find all kindsa stuff relating to men's frustration with wives.

It probably wasn't SO different. There's a biblical verse along the lines of; "Better to live in a cave alone than under the roof with a quarrelsome woman."


(Pen's still ignoring my earlier post, BTW.)

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yes there have been sh!t tests since the dawn of time and quarrels between husbands and wives but i think things were drastically different then.
 

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joekerr31 said:
aside from sex women have never given me anything.

actually i take that back, i have one female friend who is awesome. cooks for me. backs me up. etc. and my mother also gave to me things like love.

but women in general? sh*t. most women give men nothing but a headache.

you ever see a dork go up to some hot chic and ask her out, and then she just crushes him with her rejection - gets that look of 'ohhhh mahhhh gawdddd. i can't believe you'd think i'd go out with you."

women give when there is something for them to get in return. most men are this way also.
do you believe the whole human race is just tired of giving until they feel they must reject everything that does not seem to be in their best interests at hand?
 

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yes there have been sh!t tests since the dawn of time and quarrels between husbands and wives but i think things were drastically different then.

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THAT'S my point --- things were, to use YOUR words, "drastically different then."

So, how does any of that old stuff apply to me and the waitress I'm seeing?

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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

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when you look back in history basically what you get is...

a mans biggest concern was dying young and a life of hard labor.

a woman's biggest concern was having to f*ck some ugly dude that she wasn't attracted to.


to be honest, i don't know which was a worse fate, they both would suck.
 

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I AM participating!!!!! I wanna!!! I like it!!!

What do the ancient injustices have to do with me and the coed?

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they were the start of everything. when you have a coed, and she decides one day that she will control the monies ... why do you think she will insist?
 

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joekerr31 said:
when you look back in history basically what you get is...

a mans biggest concern was dying young and a life of hard labor.

a woman's biggest concern was having to f*ck some ugly dude that she wasn't attracted to.


to be honest, i don't know which was a worse fate, they both would suck.
yes i would not enjoy life in either shoes.
 

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The coed ain't getting any money from me. Are you nuts?

The waitress gets a meal occasionally.

The single mom wants a committed relationship. She's not gonna get it.


But what do Cleopatra, ancient Romans and Hebrews, et al., have to DO with it? REALLY!!!?!! WHAT??????


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ok, so no one really wants to talk about the very old history but what about the dawn of america?
there are diaries that date back to these settlers and children of settlers that write about their lives.
in the beginning of our country, women were not allowed to vote and the man controlled the money, unless he asked her to help ,very primary education and she stayed at home while he went off to work.
the men left the home and went out into the wicked world , and worked in all sorts of conditions, some very hazardous. he couldn't wait to get home to relax. he felt his wife had it great because she stayed home to relax all day.
on the other hand, she took care of children, planted and tilled the crops , cooked, churned butter, made candles, killed chickens by her own hands,sewed and spun all day and educated the children the best she could . all she did was work with no break and did not leave home.
if her husband died, she did not even get to keep their things unless she had a son to inherit it. it would go to the state.

however, if she did not marry, she was expected to be a primary school teacher or a spinner because that was about the only jobs available.

so the choices were, to either marry and be submissive to a man and raise a family with all the hard work one must endure OR become a spinster.

if men did not want to marry, they could choose other occupations.

some women wrote in their diaries about how they hated being a slave to a man that they did not love, how they only missed their husband who had been out of town for months a little and others wrote about how their husbands were their best friends and couldn't imagine life without them.

some longed for education, but men thought women were too stupid to go to school and become doctors and such.
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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The coed ain't getting any money from me. Are you nuts?

The waitress gets a meal occasionally.

The single mom wants a committed relationship. She's not gonna get it.
i thought co ed meant someone you lived with, aka ltr .
 

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eventually women were able to talk men into allowing them to get real educations. the tactic that worked, was that they wanted to teach their sons things that men should know, which meant they needed to know what men should know.

this is what began all feminazation in america.
 

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penkitten said:
ok, so no one really wants to talk about the very old history but what about the dawn of america?
there are diaries that date back to these settlers and children of settlers that write about their lives.
in the beginning of our country, women were not allowed to vote and the man controlled the money, unless he asked her to help ,very primary education and she stayed at home while he went off to work.
the men left the home and went out into the wicked world , and worked in all sorts of conditions, some very hazardous. he couldn't wait to get home to relax. he felt his wife had it great because she stayed home to relax all day.
on the other hand, she took care of children, planted and tilled the crops , cooked, churned butter, made candles, killed chickens by her own hands,sewed and spun all day and educated the children the best she could . all she did was work with no break and did not leave home.
if her husband died, she did not even get to keep their things unless she had a son to inherit it. it would go to the state.

however, if she did not marry, she was expected to be a primary school teacher or a spinner because that was about the only jobs available.

so the choices were, to either marry and be submissive to a man and raise a family with all the hard work one must endure OR become a spinster.

if men did not want to marry, they could choose other occupations.

some women wrote in their diaries about how they hated being a slave to a man that they did not love, how they only missed their husband who had been out of town for months a little and others wrote about how their husbands were their best friends and couldn't imagine life without them.

some longed for education, but men thought women were too stupid to go to school and become doctors and such.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, everything sucked.
SO WHAT?
It was really hard for everybody.
But what's important TODAY, is:

How do I f-close my sister's friend?


Are you even paying attention, Pen?

This is 2007!!! That was THEN. This is NOW.

Women are FREE now. Cell phones, washing machines, daycare, AFC husbands, back-door men, jobs, etc. -------

What's your DEAL??????


P.S. - - that cute girl at the bank looked at me. Does she like me? What should I do?

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A coed is a college girl.
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aliasguy said:
Are you even paying attention

What's your DEAL??????
i was about to ask you the same thing.
clearly you do not give a crap about anything in this thread, so why not just go read a different thread?
 

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