"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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High value guys - what makes you high value?

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Show us some better girls then.




The first one is pretty cute second is no... besides that I don't understand what you are doing or trying to prove brother rofl. Have more respect for the girls you are fvcking with than post them on a forum with a bunch of people you don't know. Maybe we should compare **** measurements next or better yet let's post our T levels rofl...

See folks this is what I mean by integrity you don't have to fvck 200 girls and keep those notches or pics as trophies. But if you're all about that power to you.
But if you have morals and a code than you just need a solid female to see what you are about and recognize it
 

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What is this, good vs evil? lol

I thought you guys wanted to learn how to get pvssy, not how to uphold the highest of the high laws and do right by others even when they do you wrong.

On average, the guys here are mentally weak and unable to see how nasty the game really is. I can't help you
This site is about a lot more than just getting pussy. To just get pussy is easy, but that doesn't necessarily make you a socially valued man. You don't need high value to get pussy, any guy can get that regardless of his moral standards.

You don't have to be a doormat, you don't have to be an asshole to not be a doormat. It's not that hard to be a good guy and score even more pussy than you would with "nasty game".

I don't find the game to be nasty, but sure it feels that way to a guy raging because he simply sucks. Easier to blame something intangible like "the nasty game" than to wake the fuck up and think.

I don't need your help. I've heard the same shit on repeat for 4 years on this forum, I have read what you tell me hundreds of times before. I've outgrown this forum, just a few high ranking members actually gets what I'm conveying.
 

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I have been experiencing this more and more in recent years. The game is changing, it's becoming dirtier and more feminized every day. I will go as far as saying that the value systems in places are also undergoing a change. Integrity, trust, character aren't worth sh$t nowadays. A lot of guys, especially the older ones haven't realized it yet. Richard's argument stays true, but it comes from a position of a boss, a man that by default has authority and hiring/firing powers. If you find yourself among perceived "equals", this argument no longer stands.
Exactly, but what frog was saying applies only to certain men. No man who truly holds his own will respect his status just because he has it. Respect is earned. Courtesy is given.

In a social setting, his status means nothing if I squash him in public.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I love you brother. This is exactly what I was trying to get at but rofl I lack the linguistic skills you got to put my thoughts into writing.
Don't feel bad, I majored in language arts and teach psychology for a living. This type of thing is sort of what I do best, haha.
 
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Exactly, but what frog was saying applies only to certain men. No man who truly holds his own will respect his status just because he has it. Respect is earned. Courtesy is given.

In a social setting, his status means nothing if I squash him in public.
If we happened to be at the same public place, I wouldn't even talk to you, let alone worry about earning your respect.

Why wouldn't I talk to you? Because I don't know you and have no need to include you in my life or be included in yours. I would have no need for our paths to cross.

Plus, I never claimed to have "status." I'm not even sure such a thing exists in a democratic society. I could definitely have MONEY, but I'd probably keep quiet about that around strangers.
 

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This site is about a lot more than just getting pussy. To just get pussy is easy, but that doesn't necessarily make you a socially valued man. You don't need high value to get pussy, any guy can get that regardless of his moral standards.

You don't have to be a doormat, you don't have to be an asshole to not be a doormat. It's not that hard to be a good guy and score even more pussy than you would with "nasty game".

I don't find the game to be nasty, but sure it feels that way to a guy raging because he simply sucks. Easier to blame something intangible like "the nasty game" than to wake the fuck up and think.

I don't need your help. I've heard the same shit on repeat for 4 years on this forum, I have read what you tell me hundreds of times before. I've outgrown this forum, just a few high ranking members actually gets what I'm conveying.
Why do you care so much about perceived value? You sound like you want to please the world.

You also sound like an old washed up guy that doesn't get too "lucky" as I'm sure you would call it. Your perception of game matches how rigid your personality is. You haven't seen the good / nasty part of it because you aren't able to get into those situations because to you they're probably wrong.

Wake up and think? There's nothing to think about with game. Either you know what you're doing or you don't.
 

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If we happened to be at the same public place, I wouldn't even talk to you, let alone worry about earning your respect.

Why wouldn't I talk to you? Because I don't know you and have no need to include you in my life or be included in yours. I would have no need for our paths to cross.

Plus, I never claimed to have "status." I'm not even sure such a thing exists in a democratic society. I could definitely have MONEY, but I'd probably keep quiet about that around strangers.
I understand what you're saying, but Not my point.

My point is that given that my (or anyone else's) personality may ruffle someone's feathers and cause that person to do something that could be perceived as disrespectful. If no apology is awarded after, the offended party would benefit from using that person to boost their perceived status. Which is why status doesn't exist. It's all a manageable facade

I only mentioned you because I can see that I ruffle your feathers. Nothing personal.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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In a social setting, his status means nothing if I squash him in public.
Catch 22/devil's advocate here...but if he has high value and believes in himself, you squashing him in public A)won't mean a thing to him, and B)possibly wouldn't even happen in the first place.

Point is...you can call it "being an alpha", you can call it "having high market value", you can call it whatever you want to and it's all the same thing in the end. It all comes down to self-improvement...becoming something genuinely worth being, followed by the self-actualization and awareness in yourself and what you are, and then finally understanding that you don't need to worry about socialization and approval any more. If/when that all hits, you shouldn't be worried about anything anymore and you'll actually find yourself being more concerned with trying to better others and helping to work on their situations as opposed to your own self.

If you're actually worth a damn...you're not going to care about status and material things as props, and you'll strangely begin to focus on trying to help others better themselves. You'll feel a brick to the face with a note attached to it saying "You're one hell of a person...what could you possibly have to lose or be afraid of?" and the rest will be easy from there.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Just going with the vibe of your insult to see how far you'll take it
Oh see that's where we got off on the wrong foot that was not an insult. It was just the observation of your statement. You should never dominate weaker men. Having that mentality looks like you got something to prove, fvck all that you know what your about and real recognize real. Keep it courteous until they test you... then fire off if you got to.
 

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Oh see that's where we got off on the wrong foot that was not an insult. It was just the observation of your statement. You should never dominate weaker men. Having that mentality looks like you got something to prove, fvck all that you know what your about and real recognize real. Keep it courteous until they test you... then fire off if you got to.
Yea no worries, man. If you and the disrespectful person are in a social setting and they step wrong then destroy them if you'd like. It shows strength, etc.

I see what you were saying too. I can definitely see how the things I was saying appears to be bullying if read in a different headspace. I'm glad we figured it out though.

Catch 22/devil's advocate here...but if he has high value and believes in himself, you squashing him in public A)won't mean a thing to him, and B)possibly wouldn't even happen in the first place.

Point is...you can call it "being an alpha", you can call it "having high market value", you can call it whatever you want to and it's all the same thing in the end. It all comes down to self-improvement...becoming something genuinely worth being, followed by the self-actualization and awareness in yourself and what you are, and then finally understanding that you don't need to worry about socialization and approval any more. If/when that all hits, you shouldn't be worried about anything anymore and you'll actually find yourself being more concerned with trying to better others and helping to work on their situations as opposed to your own self.

If you're actually worth a damn...you're not going to care about status and material things as props, and you'll strangely begin to focus on trying to help others better themselves. You'll feel a brick to the face with a note attached to it saying "You're one hell of a person...what could you possibly have to lose or be afraid of?" and the rest will be easy from there.
OP asked about how to increase perceived value. I revealed ways to increase perceived value, how to control perception with minimal risk. Squashing him in person won't ruin his self confidence if he's a solid guy, but itll make me look better. It'll increase my 'value' in they eyes of the sheep (because that's who respects value without the person having to earn it) and earn his respect because he will see that he disrespected me and see I stood up to myself.

He didn't ask how to be a better person.

I'm not concerned with being alpha or any of that stuff, bud so save it.
 

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One could argue that instead of having a good job, positive attitude, being fairly handsome and taking care of one's self that instead having a high value for what the entitled spoiled brat schit woman wants today is a guy she can boss around and control.

This is why relationships Dont work out anymore, the woman doesn't know her place in the family.

And i mean that genuinely.
 

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One could argue that instead of having a good job, positive attitude, being fairly handsome and taking care of one's self that instead having a high value for what the entitled spoiled brat schit woman wants today is a guy she can boss around and control.

This is why relationships Dont work out anymore, the woman doesn't know her place in the family.

And i mean that genuinely.
Majority yes but the flip to that is most Guys are trash too...
 

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The first one is pretty cute second is no... besides that I don't understand what you are doing or trying to prove brother rofl. Have more respect for the girls you are fvcking with than post them on a forum with a bunch of people you don't know. Maybe we should compare **** measurements next or better yet let's post our T levels rofl...

See folks this is what I mean by integrity you don't have to fvck 200 girls and keep those notches or pics as trophies. But if you're all about that power to you.
But if you have morals and a code than you just need a solid female to see what you are about and recognize it
Blah blah blah. You've been here one week and have zero women that I've seen. Your "guarantee" has no money backing it.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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