"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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High school turns men into cowards

Fender

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The problem with "taking risks" with girls in the same school is that you probably will have to see them everyday. If you screw up, you know your boned. Your reputation will go out the window and the sight of that girl will make u shiver.Gossip and crap also happens in highschool so it can get realli annoying. This will in turn affect your character and confidence- THE most important thing with girls.
So basically, i dont recommend you guys doing stuff with chicks in school until you get a little more confident/expericed so you can shrug off the crap in school more easily. In the meantime, look for girls OUTSIDE of school.

Remeber:
a)Screwups dont hurt as much
b) if you can manage strangers, u can manage that girl in school
c) more choice :p

when your outside of school.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Climax

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What i think...

Fender: good call... I have seen it happen too many times.... to the extent where they actually left to a different school because of the embarrasment.... to summarise what happened, this 1 guy, not so popular, had a crush on one of the most popular girls in school... so one day at break he asked her out and she said no... within an hour the whole school was laughing at this guy, where i was there feeling really proud of this guy that actually had the balls to ask her, where 98% of the guys in the school that want her wont even say a word to her, nevermind ask her out... but ya... that guy left the school 1 week after that happened.

But overal.. school chicks are a "no no" if u dont know 100% if she will say yes.... i personally have no problem with school chicks, i see them out of school, i get with them, and at school we act as if it never happened... but still, i make 100% sure that the chick wants me before making any moves on her, even if it IS out of school ( on the week end etc )

I'll use this girl that rejected this guy (above story) as an example...

I think it must of been about 1 or 2 years ago, we both happened to be in town the one night with our friends, so we ended up sitting next to eachother on a couch, both a little tipsy, and we started talking and **** ( wen never really knew eachother that well) and then within about 5 minutes SHE oulled into ME, so i knew that there was no chance of rejection with her... lol... as hot as she was, she was a **** kiss... looks like she plays TOO hard to get, so she doesnt get enough practice;) A week later 1 of her friends told me that she wanted to go out with me, but i said 'no thanx" because being in a relationship with a girl from school just isnt right to me, i mean... if u break up, then its gonna be wierd seeing her every day at school.. and plus... i was at a time/stage where a relationship wasnt something that i wanted.... Ok, i'm going off topic, soz..... but over all.... there are PLENTY chicks OUTSIDE school to choose from and go for, so if you can, try avoid getting with school chicks, it will just complicate things:rolleyes:

Laterz...
 

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you stole my name!


bastard.




lol anyway yeah your point could be valid for some (me when i was in highschool prolly would have been good)
 

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No, challenges turn men into cowards.

Real men, people who are secure with who they are, will not be affected by the crap that seems to haunt you.

This is a pathetic excuse to be passive.
 

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point taken, but...

Originally posted by LikRetsam
No, challenges turn men into cowards.

Real men, people who are secure with who they are, will not be affected by the crap that seems to haunt you.

This is a pathetic excuse to be passive.
I dont see how anyone would be able to feel comfortable with being the "joke" of the school because he got rejected by a girl from the school"... no matter how "MAN" he is... risks and challenges need to be taken, yes, but with logical thought and inteligence.

Laterz...
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Fender

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Lol, Fenderules, I didnt know you existed before I made my name:p But yeh, FENDER DOES RULE!!!

LikRetsam, I agree with your point. Challenges are good for you, can make u man, etc. But think about it...people in High School arent men yet (and neither am I for that matter:D). It is foolish to think you "Are a MAN" when you are not.

"As you think, you shall become" only has a certain amount of effectiveness. The skills and experience needed to truely be a man can be honed in an environment where rejections dont hurt as much. So later on, you can take bigger risks with bigger girls.

cheers-
 

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If people do what is not expected of them, they are shunned from the pack. When this happens, the person ussually learns from his 'mistake' and starts doing what is expected from him. It's when people keep going against what is expected of them that something amazing happens, they evolve.

24 hour excellence and acting against expectation produces one result: Briliance.
 

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its not a big of a challenge when its a large school where ton of kids go because not everyone is gonna know you and if you get regected and it bothers you alot you could always change classes to another room and not ever see her again
 
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