high chance of nexted, by an UG girl... a 3, blow to the confidence

[stallion]

As the title says, I have a sinking feeling that I was rejected by a girl in the 2, 3 range. She is a nice person but everybody who has seen her says she's like a guy. No, she is not just a tomboy but also looks like a guy...

Recently, I've been getting vibes from her and to make the story short, while I was simply trying to sharpen my social skill, dj skill with her, I was rejected a few times for dates. I don't really care if she's not into me at the first time but it does hurt when you realize that you've lowered her IL with your action, (AFC?).

Its expected that even AFCs have no problem turning a 2,3 girl on or at least it should be easier. Especially when this girl seems to have never had a bf......

I have no problem moving on but the only thing that bugs me is that I have been turned down by such a girl. Has anybody experienced this before?? I don't think I'm butt ugly... because girls have said I look cute...

 

[FlyGuy]

Brush it off bro. Everyone has different standards and you really don't seem to know what it is that caused you to fail with this chick. Does it matter if she's a 2 vs a 10!? Not everyone who is considered "ugly" is desperate for a date

She might realize that you're not really into her and maybe she thinks you just want an easy lay out of her. Maybe you said something that offended her. Maybe she's got another man on her plate. Who knows. I know it can be difficult but you have to put your ego on the shelf when you practice this stuff because you WILL get turned down. Even by UGs.

 

[violator]

Maybe she is a lesbo. Some of the ugliest women on earth are gay because they can't get d1ck.

 

[valera]

Your attitude is entirely wrong. Instead of, "What did I do wrong?" think "What the hell is wrong with her, missing an opportunity at me?"

 

[WatchMeWalk]

I agree with FlyGuy. Most likely she sensed you were going to "settle" and decided to beat you to the inevitable LJBF.

 

[Abcd]

I wouldn't worry about it, when you get into the >3 range you don't know what's going on in their heads. My girlfriend was just telling me about one friend of hers (who I would rank amoung the ugliest 10 girls in my HS class of 350) who wouldn't date this good looking guy in our class because she thought he was taking pity on her. Turns out the guy just liked her on a personal level. Really ugly girls follow different rules.

 

[es_mer8]

Ugly girls I think don't go out on dates because they think any attempt by a man is either a joke or the man is taking pity on them or both. Or maybe they're just so bitter that they turn down even legit dates.

 

[rbd]

Originally posted by es_mer8
Ugly girls I think don't go out on dates because they think any attempt by a man is either a joke or the man is taking pity on them or both. Or maybe they're just so bitter that they turn down even legit dates.

There may be self confidence issues at work here as well. Many people have a mental image of what their mate will be like and can't believe it when someone totally different comes along.

Robby

 

[BGMan]

I don't understand why Stallion is so upset about this. I would never even consider "practicing" on a 3.

But certainly, I seem to get the impression that UGs are actually more difficult to get along with than HBs (which is counterintuitive, but borne out by fact in my case). But I certainly think that it has to do with the fact that most guys won't look twice at them. I sometimes have UGs show interest in me, but I never go for it, and in one case, she got very bitter about my spurning her.

Therefore, when some guy comes along who actually is attracted to them, they react in disbelief and denial, especially if he is good-looking.

BGMan

 

[vdk]

have you thought about being not her type? Sometimes no matter what moves you play women may find something in you that she doesnt find attractive e.g. face, race.

 

[stallion]

I know, I didn't want to use the word "practice" but this girl simply came up because she was showing a lor of IL to me that other people were coming up to me asking me whether this girl likes me.

I mean, I'm not trying to mislead her but I simply asked her out just to see if the rumors and her body language justified it. So she flaked out thats why it bothered me a bit at first but not anymore.

Its just that this incident made me wonder how I would fare with the better looking girls at 6-8 level.

 

[violator]

It seems that when there is too much of a mismatch in looks and/or social status between two people, the less comfortable they are going to be with each other.

That is why studies suggest that a couple is likely to be happiest when they are similar in looks and social status.

So it is a good possibility that the UG just felt out of place with the possibility of going out with you.

 

[BrWnSugaMan]

Let's try to better understand this because it seems like we haven't gotten anywhere yet:

Stallion said...

I was rejected a few times for dates

-How many times did you ask her out? LoL

while I was simply trying to sharpen my social skill, dj skill with her

-So you were PRACTICING! Let's be honest here - you did what you did because you are an insecure person trying to boost his self-esteem and the plan backfired on you. I think you deserved what happened to you.

Stallion said...

I'm not trying to mislead her but I simply asked her out just to see if the rumors and her body language justified it.

-WoW! Hello - are you even listening to yourself? Let us imagine that you have a crush on a girl and you are giving out signals and rumors that you really like this girl. Eventually, you realize that through the grapevine it got to her and one day she walks up and asks you out on a date. You say "Yes" and then she says' "Oh, nevermind I just wanted to see if the rumors were true." - Do you not think this would be really confusing and hurtful? Yes it would be.

It's a good thing she noticed your c-r-a-p from a mile away and put you back in your place.

I know if some chick tried to do what you tried to do to her to me (lol - reread that), then I would be pssd off.

 

[ApocalypseCow]

I agree with BrwnSugaMan. You were just using this girl for an ego boost and wasting her time. She turned the tables and told you to fvck off. Good for her.

 

[wheelin&dealin]

Originally posted by stallion
As the title says, I have a sinking feeling that I was rejected by a girl in the 2, 3 range. She is a nice person but everybody who has seen her says she's like a guy. No, she is not just a tomboy but also looks like a guy...

WAKE UP!

She's obviously a lesbian.

 

[stallion]

hahaha, thanks, apocalypse and Brwn for the criticism but I want to ask you guys, isn't the goal of an AFC, insecure person, whatever you like to say, is to become a confident person? What would you need to get out of the rut? Experience and a positive experience to start out.

And what about the confidence treadmill article, and how you need a foundation to get into the upward spiral of confidence?? Or what about a case when a guy hits on only 8,9's realizing that he's going nowhere because their presence intimidates him? What does he have to do, go down, naturally.

Brwn, as with asking the girl out for a date, since when does that mean that if I don't follow through after that, I'm being a jerk? I'm not going to date her multiple times, fvck her, and then dump her. I only mentioned that I wanted to take her out once or twice!

Is it that harmful if I go eat a dinner, or watch a movie just with her?? I'm not going to kiss close, fvck her, or do anymore dating to devastate her in case she has High IL. Isn't dating still letting you stay behind a respectful line?? My only purpose for asking her out on a date is to check out her interest level. Yes, it may be a ego boost but as long as I don't cross the boundaries, is it that immoral??

As for wasting the time, I don't know whether eating out, and having a fun time at the movie is a waste of time. If you were to go out with a girl you like, but eventually find out you didn't cut for her, as a DJ, would you consider it a waste of time?? Wouldn't you think that if you haven't asked her out, then you won't know what kind of person she/he is and whether she has enough IL on you?? For all respect, I may start to like her more if I go out with her for even once or twice. Dating is supposed to let both parties know each other better while the process before that, that is to ask the person out is initial interest. Thats why DJs work to increase the IL from say, 50% and upwards.

 

[Charisma]

lol idd

But don't forget, a guy usually knows when he's butt-ugly, I think. But I have seen the most ugly girls dress up and try to look as good as they want to look, and actually THINK they're kinda sexy lol. I have a couple of those walking around our campus They would even play hard to get to a Movie Star She might think she's worth the world, and thus not just giving herself to you.. I could be way off though Just don't let it bother to you I guess, didn't have that happen to me yet, I'd put my money on Lesbian and Denial

 

[jlujan]

Even Brad Pitt is not atractive to a hard core lesbian, jts forget about it.

 

[Charisma]

"And what about the confidence treadmill article, and how you need a foundation to get into the upward spiral of confidence?? Or what about a case when a guy hits on only 8,9's realizing that he's going nowhere because their presence intimidates him? What does he have to do, go down, naturally."

Start by knowing yourself I guess, I feel like I can get a 10 in a realistic way .. so I won't lower my standards to a 5 or something. But let's say you don't look like a doorknob, I'm pretty sure with a little work you can get to the nrs 10 too .. Don't lower your standards if you don't feel good dating uglier girls, just practice, and get better ! Couple of years back, I was thinking about lowering my standards, but then my best friend who's uglier then me, kept getting hot dates. So I just realised my approach sucked ass. And I didn't lower my standards, I upped my practice. If you don't believe you can get 10's, then go to www.imdb.com and do a search for some of the hottest stars (females) you know, and you'll see most of them don't walk around with a super model, but just a regular Joe Schmo !

 

[Charisma]

Originally posted by jlujan
Even Brad Pitt is not atractive to a hard core lesbian, jts forget about it.

Lmao dude