"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Hi everybody, a RAFC/ future DJ with a question on getting started

jabb

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Hello, like a lot of the people around here seem to have been, I never was a "looser" and I'd even say I have a rather charismatic personality when I open up to people. But therein lies the problem, I tend to be quite shy around new people (especially ladies I'm attracted to) and while I have excellent self esteem, my self confidence is rather dismal. But this entire process is about growth, and hopefully given some time, luck and work I'll be able to show my charming, charismatic self to whomever I please, whenever I please.

Now on to the question, but first the backstory.

About a month and a half ago back I'd actually managed to work up the courage to approach a girl in my major whom I rather fancied. To my surprise (nay, delight) she agreed and even gave me her phone number but, she said, she was really busy and wouldn't be able to for a little while. No biggie I thought so I let a week and a few days slip by and asked her if she was still interested. She affirmed that she was, but said she was still really swamped.

I now thought things seemed rather fishy so I decided to do some detective work. Turns out she really was pretty damned busy, this girl is in our honors program, played varsity soccer as well as an Intramural sport, is on the dance team, plus she does volunteer work all while attending our rather demanding university. I **** you not, I would probably die if I were doing as much as she is, and I'm fairly ambitious myself.

Anyway, I let another couple weeks go past and asked her again if she was still interested. Once again she confirmed, and once again she said she was busy and it would have to wait. About a week ago soccer season ended so I assume she should have a little free time now, yet has made no attempt to let me know that she's now available to take some time to get to know each other better.
Finally the meat of the question: Should I give her one more try? There's no doubt that she knows my position but she could be one of those girls who refuses to ask the man out, even if they know/have been shown that he's interested. A close female friend of mine from back home gave me the advice of not pushing it further, and she's right, I don't want to appear desperate.

Thanks for your input (as well as the time you spent reading what appears to be a short novel :nervous: )
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Maxtro

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Why are you asking if she is still interested? You should be trying to set up meetings.

Don't wait for her to call you and let you know when she is available.
 

Maxfarsigth

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Hey man !

What id do is just stop loosing time and go ahead and approach/meet other girls.
Waiting for her to call is not fun, so ide try putting my mind in something else.

Finally, (and if you are really in for this girl) you could try what I call "the kidnapping": example: just call her to say your droping by her house in a couple of mins. and youll have lunch toghether (that may take like 45mins. tops)... but maybe the time for that has passed.

BTW: id appreciate any feedback on that last idea. Im here to learn !
 

Ratisson

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the kid has a lot to learn.

read the dj bible

if she was really interested, she would have found 30 mins in her busy schedule to come meet u for coffee. But you didnt even know how to ask her out for coffeee. Again read the dj bible.
 
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