"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Maybe its just me, but I think all the "complications" most people accuse the community of creating, are just means to discuss things with. In other words, its called 'kino' because that's a lot easier to say than "I was touching her arm to make a connection". When you see someone say 'kino', you know exactly what they're talking about, right?

Its the same for lots of terms and phrases we use here. When I'm talking to chicks, I'm not in my head thinking "Ok, now I'll use a neg on her, and then some kino to cheer her back up, and that'll create the push-pull effect I'm looking for!". No, that's just stupid. Personally, I only ever use these terms and phrases here, on the forums. I don't talk to my wingmen that way, and I don't think that way. Its all natural, like the TC is getting at.

My point is, here on the forums, yea, it all seems a little complicated. And I agree that Mystery Method and other things like that get buried under labels and technical names and everything else. But when you take what you've learned here, and go out into the field, all of that slips away, and (hopefully) it flows naturally out of you. To anyone nearby who happens to witness your masterful pickup, it'll seem as simple and clean as putting on your shoes.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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DjDan said:
Wow there Dan... Good to see you've developed game in the last couple months =)
Its so obvious what you're doing... I can't help but laugh. You make two usernames with Dan in it somewhere and use one to compliment or support the other. Silly.

You realize you're talking to yourself on an internet forum, right?
 

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zerocelcius said:
If it were only that simple..... "hey how u doing"? ..."ahhh run all the girls at chasing me with their Va Jay Jay's"....

:cool:
You dont know squat 2
 

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zerocelcius said:
Please explain how it is that simple!

What age group does this work on?

What setting are you in?

What do you hope to get from this approach?

Did you Calibrate first?

Do you care about the IOI?

Did you use the 3 Second Rule?

Are you using this as the Introduction? Than moving on with the basics?

Are you going to use Trance words and Mirror to make her feel comfortable?

Are you going to Elicit her values and regurgitate them back?

Are you going to Run the amazing connection on her so that she trusts you?

Are you going to Disarm her by separating yourself from others?

Are you going to Use sexual accelerators like Kino and Patterning to turn her on?

Than are you going to try to fClose her, if no-go than #close?
Your a complete Nerd that still worries about time constraints and pick up rules WTF LOL

Stop reading books and go out ...

I dont want to criticize people here and analyze their statements however, alot of you are just speaking based on what youv'e read...

The best approach is when you be yourself ...

Saying hey whats up in a sincere way can get you magnifacent results if done properly...

These kids worry about games...

Games are for woman,,, get your head out of your asses :moon:
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Slick101 said:
Your a complete Nerd that still worries about time constraints and pick up rules WTF LOL

Stop reading books and go out ...

I dont want to criticize people here and analyze their statements however, alot of you are just speaking based on what youv'e read...

The best approach is when you be yourself ...

Saying hey whats up in a sincere way can get you magnifacent results if done properly...

These kids worry about games...

Games are for woman,,, get your head out of your asses :moon:
What you assume (making an a$$ out of you and me) is I just read books and can't pull a girl if I tried, right?

What you assume is you have all the answers and you make it seem so easy, right?

What you assume is all you have to do is talk to girls and all is right, right?

Well if it works for you than by all means go ahead and do it. But this is DON JUAN DISCUSSION FORUM.
 
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^ :kick: *Kicks the messangers down the well!
 

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zerocelcius said:
What you assume (making an a$$ out of you and me) is I just read books and can't pull a girl if I tried, right?

What you assume is you have all the answers and you make it seem so easy, right?

What you assume is all you have to do is talk to girls and all is right, right?

Well if it works for you than by all means go ahead and do it. But this is DON JUAN DISCUSSION FORUM.
"A$$sume"....... ahhhh :yawn: YESSS... The classic "a$$ out of You and Me"

Anyway...

Notice How You :rockon: "ALWAYS" :rockon: ASk Questions LMFAOOO

Plus I saw th epost earlier You removed The last part About The HI method LOL..

I guess You thought to yourself,, " ahhhhhh.... Maybe It Does work, But Ill remove it juss In case" HAHA

Brother, Im not here to diss you, I respect all the rules and I used to think just like you until I started approaching Non-stop and Learned what REALLY works.....

9's and 10's are regular people.... Everyone tries gaming them Indirectly, When you approach them, they KNOW your interested No matter what you say,,.

Who gives a $hit about "who lies more"....

Be yourself, Why do you have to LIE to the girl with fake Time constraints and Fake stories and test...

You just play too hard thats why alot of guys have problems, They use material they have learned and when they dont know what to do they ask HERE , how do you proceed...

Do this,

Go out and try Opinion openers on girls about 10 Approaches... try to pick HB8's and over

Then juss try approaching them By telling they are beautiful and You would like to get to know them sincerley smiling and confidently... (10 approaches)

See what gets BETTER reactions.... BETTER looking girls....BETTER feeling...and EASIER transitioning and escalating...

Then write your FR... Based ON EXPERIENCE :)
 

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Slick101 said:
"A$$sume"....... ahhhh :yawn: YESSS... The classic "a$$ out of You and Me"

Anyway...

Notice How You :rockon: "ALWAYS" :rockon: ASk Questions LMFAOOO

I do ask questions. I want to learn. I want to know what it is that you actually have against the other methods. I want to know why you think it is not being sincere. I know some people actually use them as a routine, but you don't have to. Like the time contestant everyone keeps diss’n. Ok so don't use it. But don't give the girls all your time. OK you don't like NEGs what do you do when you walk up to a HB9-10 and she treats you like ****. I don't care how great you are, there is going to be a time this happens. Who know maybe they are on their rag. You can just walk away and say I don't want to have anything to do with her. OR you can throw her off, turn it around and get her laughing and find out she just had a ****ty day, and is a good person. Or she has to poop real badly and didn't mean to be a Byatch. You would have never known if you just walked away.

Plus I saw th epost earlier You removed The last part About The HI method LOL..

I guess You thought to yourself,, " ahhhhhh.... Maybe It Does work, But Ill remove it juss In case" HAHA

I removed it because I don't want to get into a flame war. I want to talk about becoming the best DON I can be. I really don't want to waste my time attacking somebody personally. I know there are going to be things said on her towards me as a person, but I will not react back to them that way. I am done with that behavior. If you read all my posts you will see I had a problem with that in the past and I have learned from it. I am focused on one thing right now and that is bettering myself and not attacking others for their thoughts or methods. I still have a way to go, but I am trying.

Brother, Im not here to diss you, I respect all the rules and I used to think just like you until I started approaching Non-stop and Learned what REALLY works.....

9's and 10's are regular people.... Everyone tries gaming them Indirectly, When you approach them, they KNOW your interested No matter what you say,,.

I believe DA is the best. I also know that I will not tell them about my feelings. I know they don't want to hear my talk about my feelings. I know they are just people and the fact is I don't want them. They might be the quality of girl (looks wise) I would be into, but I am not into them yet. I will not profess anything about them to them. They have to earn anything they get from me. The only thing I am interested in any girl HB7-10 is to find out if they are worth my time. I don't talk to them to see if I can fClose them, but if they turn out to be that girl than go for it. After I start talking to them I decide what my further intentions are. Until than there are no Intentions. So if they Assume I am there trying to fClose them than they made a mistake in Assuming.

Who gives a $hit about "who lies more"....

I never said anything about using canned lines other than those that can't naturally talk to people should give it a go, until they can do it naturally.

Be yourself, Why do you have to LIE to the girl with fake Time constraints and Fake stories and test...

You just play too hard thats why alot of guys have problems, They use material they have learned and when they dont know what to do they ask HERE , how do you proceed...

I agree that this is an issue here and would still be an issue here if they just talked to girls naturally. I don't think that will ever change as long as there is a forum to discuss on.

Do this,

Go out and try Opinion openers on girls about 10 Approaches... try to pick HB8's and over

Then juss try approaching them By telling they are beautiful and You would like to get to know them sincerley smiling and confidently... (10 approaches)

See what gets BETTER reactions.... BETTER looking girls....BETTER feeling...and EASIER transitioning and escalating...

Then write your FR... Based ON EXPERIENCE :)

Those are just openers. You say you don't like canned lines or openers but do you use the same line every time? Again I am not going to go up to anybody and tell them how I feel about their looks. I would rather use a point of mutual interest and try to honestly connect on some level. See how much we actually had in common and see if we were compatible. If we aren’t and I am single than I will try to fClose. Unless she is a complete moron or byatch. However; I am in a relationship right now so my Approaching days are off for now.

The reason I asked so many questions was to get you guys past the openers to find out how your DA version worked. Even with all my questions, all I heard so far is about the opener.
I just want to know what you guys do (when approaching like this) after you say "I think you’re BEAUTIFUL, and I would LIKE to get to know you."
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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(TALK TALK TALK TALK TALK)

And now for something different.

Here is indirect game:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5cgmIMvgYY0&mode=related&search=

Now I'd like to see the direct game. No talk, just a video.

Can Derek Flint or Slick 101, or any other natural gamers find or post a video of the "hi, you're beautiful approach" working? They have to be out there.

Best of all would be a video of a guy approaching a good-looking girl who is sober and not alone.

There is a guy wayne Juggler who is apparently quite good at direct; I can't find any field vids.
 
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