"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Herpes

godofanxiety

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Let's say you have it, both hsv 1 and 2. No outbreaks so far, nothing. It's a ****ty thing to hide it from a potential sex partner. How would you go about it? When? Any experiences welcome.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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is this before or after you kill the person who gave it to you?



you need to tell. by law and by conscience.


Eat the crap out of Valtrex, explain that you really can't get it if you are using a condom and get some connection first.
 

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If you've never had an outbreak, I would question that you have it at all. You are probably talking about an antibody blood test. Unless you have sores or you give someone else sores, then for all practical purposes, none of it exists.

fwiw, I was married to a woman with herpes for 7 years and I never got it. She had the real kind where you actually get sores. I never got it and have been in several relationships since with no problem, including a current one of two years, and no condoms ever. I never took the antibody test, but I suspect that I would fail it as well.
 

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Amazing said:
you need to tell. by law and by conscience.
I know, that's why I'm asking for tips. I can't think of a way to disclose it and not to make a woman run for her life.

Also, @Bible_Belt, I know I have it. Blood works and all. I hope to never get an outbreak, but the sh!t can be transmitted even without one...
 

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If you know you have it then you need to find a woman who has it. You guys can fvck like minks and not worry about it..

cavedweller
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Bible_Belt said:
If you've never had an outbreak, I would question that you have it at all. You are probably talking about an antibody blood test. Unless you have sores or you give someone else sores, then for all practical purposes, none of it exists.
That's not true. I highlighted the area of interest from the following excerpt
Herpes viruses cycle between periods of active disease—presenting as blisters containing infectious virus particles—that last 2–21 days, followed by a remission period, during which the sores disappear. Genital herpes, however, is often asymptomatic, though viral shedding may still occur.

In other words, you can still transmit the disease, without ever getting symptoms yourself. Not getting tested after having had a 7 year relationship with someone infected by herpes is irresponsible. You are basically sticking your head in your ass.
 

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Amazing said:
Eat the crap out of Valtrex, explain that you really can't get it if you are using a condom and get some connection first.
wow...Amazing you need to read my post in this thread and think about what you just said.

If you've never had an outbreak said:
If you've never had an outbreak, I would question that you have it at all.
This is NAIVE !!! and the reason why theres so much shit floating around the population right now !!

SandHawk called it perfectly.

godofanxiety said:
Let's say you have it, both hsv 1 and 2. No outbreaks so far, nothing. It's a ****ty thing to hide it from a potential sex partner. How would you go about it? When? Any experiences welcome.
I'm not condoning NOT telling a partner so Im not gonna give you and advice about what you should and shouldn't do.

So many people have this and Im sure they don't tell other people or engage in sexual activity if an outbreak occurs. Some people have it and probably don't even realize they have.

It would probably NOT be smart to go screaming your business out to the world unless you have a good reason to.
 

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I think some people have misunderstood me. I intend to tell my partners. I just don't know how to say such a thing.

If I wanted to hide it I wouldn't need advice.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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http://www.herpes.com/hsv1-2.html

From here, however, the question of transmissibility gets more complicated. Acquisition of one type is more difficult-though certainly possible-if you already have the other type. This is because either type, contracted orally or genitally, causes the body to produce antibodies, some of which are active against both HSV-1 and 2. This acquired immune response gives some limited protection if the body encounters a second type. When a person with a prior HSV infection does contract the second type, the first episode tends to be less severe than when no prior antibodies are present.
Well, theres really no other way than telling them bluntly.


P.S. I quoted that text because im suggesting that you may have not contracted HSV-2 at all. Go test yourself, dont live in uncertainty. Its plain stupid.
 

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SandHawk said:
That's not true. I highlighted the area of interest from the following excerpt
Herpes viruses cycle between periods of active disease—presenting as blisters containing infectious virus particles—that last 2–21 days, followed by a remission period, during which the sores disappear. Genital herpes, however, is often asymptomatic, though viral shedding may still occur.

In other words, you can still transmit the disease, without ever getting symptoms yourself. Not getting tested after having had a 7 year relationship with someone infected by herpes is irresponsible. You are basically sticking your head in your ass.

Asymptomatic viral shedding is a purely academic theory. If you know anyone who got herpes that way, they would be the first I've heard of. I have been asking this question for years. If you find someone who got it that way, they need to be documented. I think it's about as likely as a woman getting pregnant from a bl0wjob.

And I've had condomless sex literally about a thousand times with the girlfriends I've been with since getting divorced. If I have herpes, it is the imaginary kind that you get from the doctor, the kind that is designed to sell Valtrex prescriptions.
 
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