Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Great advice/answer.Originally posted by TillTheEndOfTime
This relationship you have is probably doomed, but this doesn't mean you have to be doomed along with it.
How about instead of waiting around like a sitting duck for her to leave you and be left with nothing, you go out and start finding some of your own "friends". Don't be stupid like those wussy guys and turn a dumb girl into your "EVERYTHING". SHE IS NOT "everything". She is not the centre of your universe. Life started before her and life will continue after her. Withdraw your emotional investment in the relationship and start looking at her more as a friend. I understand this is easier said than done, but it will come with time, trust me.
In the meanwhile build contacts with other girls so you're ready for the dreaded *DA DA DA* "Let's just be friends" line. Instead of being one of those FOOLS (AFCs) crying "How could you leave me!? I loved you! I can't live without you!"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Interesting choice to only read his initial post. However you missed a critical piece of information that would have probably completely changed your opinion on this issue. She's known this "friend" for just 2 weeks. Hardly a long time friend. Given this what would you say?Originally posted by spidersense
I would say to let her go out to lunch with the guys though, as long as they are really her friends, meaning guys she was friends with before you started dating.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
my take...I will be on the side of the lady killaz(a.k.a. D.J.'s) than to be no lookin like a duck....and thats real....Originally posted by TillTheEndOfTime
In the meanwhile build contacts with other girls so you're ready for the dreaded *DA DA DA* "Let's just be friends" line. Instead of being one of those FOOLS (AFCs) crying "How could you leave me!? I loved you! I can't live without you!" You can be one of those DJs that says "Friends? Cool hunny. Hey look, I'll call you back my girlfriend is on the other line. PEACE."
Tell me. Which person would you rather be?
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Although your adivce is structurally sound and that is what a DJ would do, you've failed to take into consideration the context this poor schmuck is in... He's AFC, so smarting on like he's some confident DJ is not gonna make one iota of a difference to his GF between the time she meets up with this new guy and the time she dumps him for good...Confidence cannot be established overnight.... At most she'll confirm his AFC status for letting her do what she wants...and acting kinda weird lately!!! (ie. different)NW1521 wrote:
For god sake let her do what she wants with her life. She is only goin to lunch with him, relax theres no reason at all to get uptight. Any with you objecting to her doing it, is only making her want to do it even more. My advice would be to let go, encourage it you mighten think it but that conveys a lot of self-convidence, as 99% of the male population would object to her goin to lunch with one of her male friends. Be the other 1% for a change
Forgive them father for they know NOT what they do (say)!!!Originally posted by dietzcoi
Shame on you symps for telling him it is OK for her to do this to him! Dietzcoi
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.