"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Her AFC friends.

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Right, so there I was, teasing her about her nails looking fake, and her dress looking like a shower curtain - where her friends come in and start b!tchin' and moaning at me, that I must take back what I said, and that I'm so rude.

Bla bla bla, she doesn't look like a monkey, that she's beautiful. She was loving what I was saying, these guys come in out of nowhere (this was at a party, btw) and sh!t on me.

So how do you guys deal with these AFC's who just don't understand what you're doing... :-/
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Macgyver

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Uh, you try to respect them? If you make fun of her, do it in private, if you do it in front of her friends They think you're an ass and start ****blocking you like no end. I would too if I didn't like how my female friend was being treated.

I mean, what the hell would you do if I were to come along and start making fun of your sister? Idiot.

People who down-rep me are weaker and smaller than me.
 

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Keeper, your game was fine, but since other people caught onto it, they hated on the player and tried to screw up your game. It happens! Get used to it. Once that sort of thing happens, you either come back at them with C&F or let them whine for a second, then go back to engaging convo with her.
 

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Yeah Charm, that's what I do. Let the guys whine and then resume the chat I was having with her.

And Gyver... if some guy came along and started teasing my sister, making fun of her... hell, I'd prolly join right in. :-/ Obviously you've never teased before. We love it, they love it. Everyone who gets it loves it.

You... don't get it.
 

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I'm new at this myself.. not a pua like all the other new-gen-donjuans in here... but being an amog I know much about (without being humble or politacally correct now.. just trying to make a point guys) and I can without a doubt say that I know it well...

since she obviusly was so taken by ur words that she actually told about it to her male friends.. remember that a girl never ever tells about a guy to other guys if she knows that they care about her so much that they would do something about it... allthough she would never ask for it...

and judging by that it seems that u've really hurt this girls feelings.. and that is NOT the intention of negs...
the intention of a neg (most negs, not all) is to make it look like ur trying to give her a complimant but that u dont think that there is much about her to give complimants about...

but then again im no psychologist or a pua so I could be wrong..

But about those guys I am sure that I know what I'm talking about...

I've been a boxer/prizefighter and a bouncer so long now that I think I know how to make others not want to be on ones bad side and to those of you who think that it has anything to do with me possibly being a big guy or that people might know about me or my rep.. ur all wrong!

I'm a welterweight fighter so I am NOT big, I'm 171cm tall and whey only 70 kilograms fro those who don't know the wight categories.. so it cant be that people se me as a big scary guy... and as for people knowing my rep.. I live in oslo and don´t know anybody here... And I mean NOBODY except for my colleagues at work who I spend all my spare time with.. and most of them dont know about my past... then what makes people listen to me, follow me (my co-workers) and not want to be on my bad side? I'ts because of one simple thing... I dont let them!!! (people in groups try all the time to be best in the gruop in every little thing and if they get any role in the grup as for ex. the clown, the smart one, the funny one or the amog.. its beacause u've given up the right for that role!!)

and that seems to be what u lack..

Remember this.... whenever confronted by any guy wether its an amog an afc or whatever... be calm, look like u arent even bothered by the confrontation and do NOT excuse urself or make jokes to ease the tension... at all!!! these are signs of weakness and and any real amog knows that that is also a sign that the confronted person is accepting having made the accused mistake... and that right there is enough at least for me, to make u hurt...

What u should have done is to act like u didnt even realize that u had hurt her fealings... "not that u care though.." but that that wasnt the intention.. and u should have implied that it would be a misstake for them to want to takes it any further...

maybe by saying something like...

"hahhahahahahah... if I had known that I would have ended up in yet another brawl tonight I would have brought my friends along for the fun.. but that wasnt why I came here for... by the way guys, do yall know that u all look like the brady bunch sisters when u stand there like that.. hahahah, so what do u say we make this story short and I'll go over there with u and have a chat with here myself to smooth things over and then yall can by me a drink for scaring the **** out of me like this..." then look at the biggest one of em and say "I'm sure I know u from somewhere.. whatever, I'll let u know when I find out from where I know u..." and then shake his hand and iontroduce urself and be sure to squeze his hand hard!!! then shake hands with the other guys and look em all straight in the eyes.. then keep talkin to em and just change the subject at this point or if not keep talking about the girl and find out how they all know eachother..

it's gutsy but I'm sure that u now would have 50/50 chans of them bringing u over to theire group.. (which would now make u the amog, or at least the chance to make urself the amog) and they would definately not want to take it any further than just laughing nervously about the whole thing... If u make eyecontact the whole time and not play around with ur feet or hands or something else to make u look nervous while saying the line above... if u look nervous ur done.. if u make jokes ur done.. if u lose eycontact with the biggest one of em ur done... and most importantly if u imply that u were wrong ur done...

(remember that if those guys are all big, buffed, stoned, and/or have jailhouse tattos or some other surreal badboy feature **** like facial scars or something... just freakin run away... do NOT say what is written above... its not easy to fake being an amog among hardcore guys, trust me... hahah)

cause if I personally had wanted to pick a fight or just make someone look bad for doing what u did trust me I would have F***ed u up if u had just given me any little excuse for doing so...

just a tip... the only thing u can do to make me not hurt u or make u look bad and be outcast from the gruop is IF u let me know that u dont give a **** but that it all was a missunderstanding anyway.. then just change the subject and let me (implyingly) know that u probably have the ability to make look bad in another situation elsewhere... cause that would be bad for me as an amog or average guy and therefore i dont want to take that risk...

SIMPLE... the bottomline is: show them that u are somebody but that u acknowledge that they are as well.......... get it?!

good luck next time... and good sarging to yall guys!
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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WTF?

My goodnes... you just wasted 20 mins of your life writing that.

First, I never hurt her feelings. We were jolling together, at the spors bar. Second, she was sitting on my lap, laughing - while her two adoring friends were nearby. They overheard me teasing her, and decided it's the proper thing to do to come over and voice their opinions. :-/ I never said sh!t about her going and telling on me to all her friends.

Fvck you, retard.


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(remember that if those guys are all big, buffed, stoned, and/or have jailhouse tattos or some other surreal badboy feature **** like facial scars or something... just freakin run away... do NOT say what is written above... its not easy to fake being an amog among hardcore guys, trust me... hahah)
:-/ Dude, you seriously need to stop living in this fantasy of yours.

Ok, they weren't any big butch guys. Just NORMAL AFC's who decided to stand up for the girl whom I called a monkey cause she managed to stay balanced on my lap while I was twirling around on the chair.

I'm not talking about extreme sh!t where I insulted her and now her best friend, a German Bodybuilder called Hans, wants to teach me a lesson. Life isn't as hostile as you make it out to be. And I wasn't threatened by those guys at all.

To rephrase what I want: What to say/do to get rid of these AFC's who want to do nothing but tell the girl how wonderful she is - and get upset with you because you don't think like them. :-/

And no, they weren't sober to drink... we were having a party at the sports bar.
 

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Yeah Charm, that's what I do. Let the guys whine and then resume the chat I was having with her.

And Gyver... if some guy came along and started teasing my sister, making fun of her... hell, I'd prolly join right in. :-/ Obviously you've never teased before. We love it, they love it. Everyone who gets it loves it.

You... don't get it.
Uh, I get it alright. I don't have mob mentality like you do. Yeah keep throwing the tomatoes on the victim it's fun.
 

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WTF?

My goodnes... you just wasted 20 mins of your life writing that.

Fvck you, retard.
hey man you were the one who asked for his advice. If you dont like it dont take it but dont **** on him for trying to help you, especially on this forum where were all trying to help each other raise the bar for ourselves and other men.
 

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TO KEEPER...

There are different kinds of people... many different kinds... but the kind that almost always make fools of them selves are ur kind...

Just so u know I wrote all that for u... thought ud need some advice.. because u were talking like the poore bastards that people like my old self used to bully allt the way up to uni... and judging by ur reply Im sure that u are...

If u dont want any actual help then make ur name worth and "keep" it to ur self...

about wasting my time I'm sure there's atleast one kid out there being bullied or pushed or held back amongst other guys who needs the kind of advice I gave... and if thats so then Im glad I wrote every word of it... (I'm sure ur one of those kids.. ;))

About living in fantasies... my world is vey real... (not something Im glad about though..) and the people I'm around talk big when they are willing to prove that they are infact big... not from behind computers... get the hint boy?

If ud ever want to look me up Id gladly give u every little peace of info on me that u need... just ask!

Its a real shame that people in here are anonymous... a real shame!
 
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