"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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hey guys, I really need the help of some DJs!

there's a girl I know, I'm so far into the friend zone you wouldn't believe, no chance of a relationship either...
the girl I like does a lot of other guys, which upsets me, so I want to get out of there...only problem is, I'm her best friend and she won't make it easy...

would it make sense to try to completely cut contact? or should I do it more slowly or something?

any advice on this situation would be good, cheers guys :)
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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be "busy" for a while. When she wants to hang out or chat then talk as normal but just say you've got somewhere to be or something to do. Keep this up for a while.

The username "leeroy jenkins" doesn't really help with my impression of how well you'll be able to pull it off.
 
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be "busy" for a while. When she wants to hang out or chat then talk as normal but just say you've got somewhere to be or something to do. Keep this up for a while.

The username "leeroy jenkins" doesn't really help with my impression of how well you'll be able to pull it off.
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lmfao! I do NOT play computer games, s'kind of an ironic name ;)

thing is, I'm in a different city to her for like 5 weeks (then I live 2 minutes away) so I was thinking my phones could "break" :p
 
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Keep in mind that it will be far easier to move on to another girl than it would be to turn this around. I personally do not believe it is worth your time.

If you have feelings for her and it bothers you to see her with other guys, then I would recommend cutting most contact off with her. You don't have to be an ass about it or anything; just respectfully cut down on your contact with her.

However, if it doesn't bother you that much, keep her around as a valued friend. Put her in your friend zone. That's probably the best advice I could give you in terms of havig a chance with her again: put her in your friend zone.

Kudos,
Matt
 
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preferably just say hi and date other girls. make an excuse if not in person like "oh (susi) is calling me, can you hang on" and don't talk to her again that day", she may begin to wonder just how long you and susi talked before you realized she was on the phone and if you keep it up but don't be obvious, she may begin to feel a bit of jealously as to this "susi" character taking the company of her best friend. and then keep it up so she will have enough time to realize she likes you then keep it up so that after a long time yo see her, she will not feeel it so wierd to initiate kino w/ her and if you follow the don juan philiosophy correctly she will be so into your new cool personality that u may get a kiss or more. and have fun doing it. when you keep it brief, laugh when she gets off the phone to boost your confidence and dont tell her anything about "susi" just keep her supposed character to yourself. who knows you may even get yourself a real Susi.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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leeroyjenkins said:
hey guys, I really need the help of some DJs!

there's a girl I know, I'm so far into the friend zone you wouldn't believe, no chance of a relationship either...
the girl I like does a lot of other guys, which upsets me, so I want to get out of there...only problem is, I'm her best friend and she won't make it easy...

would it make sense to try to completely cut contact? or should I do it more slowly or something?

any advice on this situation would be good, cheers guys :)
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well, a pro of being her best friend is that you and her spend time, and she 'needs' you (you are a part of her current life that's not easily replaceable).
So playing some ganji on her would help I think, because she then realises what she's missing
 
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I love j-bone's advice...mate if only I could pull it off lol...I'm gonna settle for "no longer a friend" :p

cheers guys, I think you've kinda confirmed what I was thinking :)
 
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goes along with my words, which proves only in words the best plan of action but only you gotta make the move without hesitation, or fear.
 
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much welcome to you fellow dj.
Good Luck
 
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well the thing is, I've tried all the tricks and this girl isn't gonna go out with me, which I'm okay with, as long as I don't have to think about/see her with other guys >.<
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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leeroyjenkins said:
well the thing is, I've tried all the tricks and this girl isn't gonna go out with me, which I'm okay with, as long as I don't have to think about/see her with other guys >.<
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Focusing on the tricks is why she's not yours man. Build yourself up from the inside and she'll be the one picking you up.

Kudos,
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but if you do see her with other guys act as though you could care less. don't say it though as this will tip your opinion and ruin your chance of a dominance over her. just say stuff like cool, nice to meet you, kid around with him say something like lemme warn you, shes a bit crazy followed by a smooth laugh and wait until she reacts (most cases a slight nudge w the elbow) and say im jokin shes alright. this will not only show that your cool with it but the guy will feel a bit intimidated by this radiant, confidant (i did not say handsome but it is a plus) guy around his woman and he may feel smaller and smaller. j
 
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but if you do see her with other guys act as though you could care less. don't say it though as this will tip your opinion and ruin your chance of a dominance over her. just say stuff like cool, nice to meet you, kid around with him say something like lemme warn you, shes a bit crazy followed by a smooth laugh and wait until she reacts (most cases a slight nudge w the elbow) and say im jokin shes alright. this will not only show that your cool with it but the guy will feel a bit intimidated by this radiant, confidant (i did not say handsome but it is a plus) guy around his woman and he may feel smaller and smaller. j
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so you prefer this technique over say...stabbing him in the eye? :p

j/k

nah problem is the ones so far have been my mates...I've done everything possible and this is going nowhere....time to totally cut contact...
 
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just try option a if you really want her, if it doesn't work out remember as a don juan that you have NOT lost because you have GAINED experience
 
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