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Help with respoding to HB8 from the gym!

Father Joseph

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So I got this Hb8's number. I called her last week to schedule a date on this week. She didnt know what she was doing this week so I said I'd chat up her later. Today I texted her "What are your plans for this week?" I got a reply: "Im not able to go out this week:s but maybe next week:) i dont know what's your idea of going for coffee but im in a relationship so just as friends:)" Did i just get recordtime friendzoned or what is the deal here? Thanks in advance for the input. May God bless you.
 

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You got record time friendzoned homie.

Cut your losses & never speak to her again

Hit the next button
 

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Everyone has a different approach to this game, and they say follow this, follow that. I do what works for me, and if I feel like a girl is a waste of time, I will drop it and leave as that. To help me get over her and not swell on the fact, I look at all of her negatives and things I don't find attractive, which helps me let go.

So since she counter-offered, people would say "That's okay -- it's only when she denies, she is a waste of time."

In the common court of Law, if someone does you wrong and owes you money, they can request a monthly payment and the judge must accept all offers if the defendant denies to pay the sum amount monthly. The defendant can only COUNTER-OFFER, which then that must be accepted. But when they deny the amount, the Judge says "You cannot deny the amount, only counter-offer -- so that concludes this court session, you pay them $50 monthly." You could have paid them $5 monthly if you would have said "It is in my best effort humanely possible to pay $5 a month." - in which the judge must accept.
The same goes for this kind of date -- if she denies but never says "Can we do next week?" - she is gone and not interested. If she is that excited about it, she will make it HER best effort to date you as soon as possible!

I say, continue to talk to other women (I know, you find someone so physically attractive and you find it hard to find someone else - but when you do, you look back and say "wow, this one is so much better, nicer, and attractive.") and when next week comes, pick a physical day and time and if she says she is busy, then it's time to let it go.

She will become like us men when women stop initiating contact first. She will worry, "Oh wow, he isn't messaging me anymore for dates. He isn't texting me anymore, which I loved. I must get him back so I'll worry, and send the first message."

Once you do that, she will know you aren't playing around and you won't play 'games' because you didn't let her play the same games on you. If you let her push you around, she will know you do the same thing and women don't like 'games'.
The reason why she didn't counter-offer with a definite time is because you either did not give a specific date and time.

Wait until next week - ask her with a physical date and time - and see what she says. If she says no, play nice and make it seem like it didn't affect you. If you go crazy, it will confirm her feelings with "Wow, this guy is a complete *******. He assumes I'm not interested, so he will just ignore me. Not the guy I want."
Play friends, and be like "Okay that's fine!" and end it there. OR, "Okay no problem." Don't make it seem like you're willing to accept the apology ever-so-quickly. But don't feel offended by her decision.

Play cool -- play like it's her loss, and know that it might not be your fault - she could have major trust issues, and is afraid to get close to someone. It could be because she might think you're after a relationship, it coming on too strong.

She could also be holding it out because she wants your desire - she wants to feel wanted, and the only way to do that is watch you come back over and over again, begging. Once you stop, she will want those feelings back.

Men do this with women - they will constantly pick fights, only to push the girl away and have her come back, fighting for you attention. Then the man feels powerful, and the relationship is fine, and the process repeats.

So play their game! I had a girl text message me a few days, every night and the night she didn't, I was over my head driving around and thinking. Do the same thing -- initiate conversation, ask for a date, and then stop. She will wonder why, and she will miss those nightly text messages. I'll get sh1t for telling you that, because the 'rule' is that we are supposed to have them come to us, since we are the prize. The alpha's are far from being 'alpha', because they listen to what other people say, and they follow out - only later trying to believe it themselves, that they are some type of esoteric piece of attraction.
Do what works for you - I've started to follow these 'rules' and man, I suck... I've had more success years ago with my own way.

So try whatever out - don't let her play you, and leave you on the sidelines - stop asking her for a date (ask her next week) after next week, and see what happens. She will come back! I've had women hold on to me for months and then we finally dated, casual sex, what have you. I stopped asking and they always wondered "Are we going to date?" "Am I going to see my boy?", etc.
If she can't hangout, she could be pushing you away to see if you'd come back.

She will think - "He asked me twice, he got my number. He is interested but I didn't know that! I have to ask him out and say yes."
You leave the mystery in the game when you pull away, and it will ultimately be the attraction she needs to become attached to you.
If you allow her to play the games, if you get pissed when she says no, it will just confirm her feelings that you too play all sorts of games and you're not worthy of bonding with her.
 

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Father Joseph said:
Did i just get recordtime friendzoned or what is the deal here?
This should be fairly obvious, no?
 

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Thank you DJ council for your wise words. Should I bother answering her or just straight next her? May God bless you
 

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A girl with a boyfriend who's giving her number out is an attention wh0re looking for orbiters to boost her ego.
Next her instantly but don't get all butthurt. She may break up with the guy and offer herself for some rebound pounding.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Father, Son and the Holy-Go-Ghost on her!

Next.
 

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This is the same chick I talked about in my previous thread. She smiled at me everytime I saw her. She didn't seem a girl who smiles to everyone, kind of a shy chick. And she gave the number with no hesitation. Maybe she just liked the attention who knows Anyways---> On to the next one
 

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Should I ignore the fact that when I saw her at the gym the other day she gave me a big smile I smiled back to her and she turned her head away in a kind of shy/submissive way. But I ignored her the rest of the time working out. I saw from the mirror that she was checking me out a couple of times. I did go ghost on her i didnt answer to her last message. She is a cute chick hot body pretty face. Maybe it is just overanalyzing or what do you think? Anyways may God bless you all.
 

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It is been a few months since I texted her. I was thinking about texting her again since she was down to meet althought she had a boyfriend. Like I said in previous post I saw her a couple of times after the texting in the gym and she was checking me out and smiling. what kind of text I should send? Something ****y&funny perhaps?


-May God bless you all-
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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She's just pining for attention, do you want to be 'that guy' to give it to her?

You did a good job nexting her, just keep following through and pursue other women.
 

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While I agree with the other guys about not wasting any energy or time on her I would suggest you to be more diplomatic, not because you own her sh1t but because she belongs to an environment you attend.

If you simply dont bother to talk to her anymore you something which is correct as long as there are no other parts involved nor you will see her again, but since its a gym it takes vry little for a rumor about the "bvtthurt guy" which doesnt even speak to girls once they are not sexual available to him...gym gossips prosper in those rest periods between sets.

So my suggestion is, keep the conversation short,nice and neutral, have small talks and say hi all the time while slowing decreasing the amount of attention for her.

Needless to tell you that there wont be any more direct or indirect invitation from you.

In case she offers to introduce you to any of her friends, pay attention while you could be lucky at the same time they will know you are the guy which tried to get her and failed, not the best intro.
 

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Girl not interested + she has a boyfriend + she told you to be friends.

Forget about her. Talk to her in the gym if you like though, you never know if she will end up suc-king your coc-k in the future. It happened to me a couple of times. True story.
 
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