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Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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Help with email seduction

micams

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Hi all,
I've read tAos(*) 1 year ago and I loved it. I'm very found of psychology and seduction as I read a lot of books on psychology, NLP. I’ve also studied a lot of the PUA’s methods of seduction.
As I love psychology, I enjoy a lot the approach of the tAOS book.
I’m 33 and I’ve an intermediate level in seduction and I’ve experienced a lot of progress particularly on the confidence and assertiveness department. I’m very analytical and I love to understand and to deconstruct all the human behaviours, emotions, motivations, etc.
The problem I face right now is my unsuccessful attempts in email seductions.
I have now the ability to approach confidently women in variety of situations like public transportations, night clubs, social events, etc and I can start with them an interesting and charming conversation with some level of rapport, correct body language, emotion elicitations, psychological cold readings, etc. It usually ends with an email and sometimes a phone number.
I prefer the phone number as my actual success is far much higher. When I receive only the mail because of the female resistance to give me the phone number, the seduction usually dies because of a lack of answer to my first or second email ie I occasionally succeed to have an answer to my first mail but rarely the second.
My seduction type is I think the Ideal lover as I’me quite analytical and INTP(Myers Briggs personality) and I also enjoy a lot the playing the charming/romantic role and I love listening to people problems, desires,…I also love to give them valuable and useful feedback. My greatest pasts seductions where when I was in the charming/Ideal Lover archetype.
I’ll know tell you the precise purpose of my mail.
Last saturday night, after a wonderful weekend with a lot of successful female interactions and collecting of email/phone numbers, I went with close friends to a party.
There I saw a girl I’ve previously seen 6 months before in a friend’s party, at that time I’ve discussed with her and asked for her email address that she gave me. I do not remember exactly what events followed but I think I didn’t do much as I was not particularly motivated by her; she was pretty, mature and intellectual but I found her very shy and reserved(my little sister knows the target’s sister). Her victim type is New Prude with coquettish tendencies as the interactions I had with her last Saturday night follows very closely the book’s description.
In this interaction, I was euphoric because of my recent successes in seduction and the actual experimenting of the PUA direct method ie to show your intentions relatively rapidly and give sincere and profound compliments to the target. This method works surprisingly well in a number of situations especially if your interest is sincere and you’re truly confident and at ease with the potential victims. I think also that this method is congruent with the Ideal Lover/Charming type.
I’ve read in the book, that the most effective strategy for a New Prude is the Siren/Rake type that is not too far of my actual believed type. I found that my victim was extremely vulnerable to deep well though and sincere compliments. I gave her also a psychological cold reading with a psychological little game called the Cube, as she didn’t want to explicitly reveal some of her past life.
When I saw her, I was mesmerized by her vague and sensual gaze, I do not know if it was because of her drinking of alcohol, she was also very smiling, sociable and not B i t c h y at all.
She received a lot of the attention from me and other close friends, she was with two girlfriends. After some speaking and some dancing, as her friends receive less attention, they predictably dragged her.
As I lost her and didn’t chased her right away(a PUA tip), I finally found her 15 minutes after with her friends collecting their clothes before leaving. I asked for her email, which she gave me but right after, I asked for her phone and she refused.
I told her that I sense some interesting qualities in her and it’s a shame that the opportunity vanishes, she tells me to not try to convince her.
After some talk and a phone call, she asked me to wait for her to finish the call as I was willing to continue the conversation. After the call, I tell her that I do not believe in email connections and I’ve found that a majority of them ends and I give her my email and phone number.
She continues to refuse to give me her number and she also say”the more you ask, the less I want to give you the number”.
I ask her If she’s planning to reply to my email and she says I don’t know yet!(typical female answer ;-))
So finally she left as I tell her that I’m amazed at the frivolity of modern young girls.
By the way, she studies in law school and she will soon be an attorney.
In the book in the New prude section, I feel she gave a resistance that we call in French”douce resistance” and following the book’s advice it meant that I successfully engaged the seduction process and the seduction is starting to enter her spirit.
The mail address she gave me is authentic so I think that it’s possible to turn on the seduction and she is at least partially interested by me. During her refusal, I asked her If she liked me, and she didn’t answer this question.
So what are the interpretations of the interaction, also I’d love hearing some of your advice for the mail.
I really like this girl. I’m currently thinking about the email and I think I’ll post some drafts of it for your comments.
Thanks a lot,
Michael.

tAos is the fabulous book "The Art of Seduction" by Robert Greene
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Lifeforce

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Dude, I've been on these rout before, reading alot of psychology, art of seduction, speed seduction, 48 laws of power, differen NLPstuff and the best tip I can give you is to toss it in the garbage can as soon as you can.

In case you haven't noticed the real world doesn't work like the book say it do. Sure it has some good points but it's all wrong, you need to adapt the book to reality not the other way around.

From what I read in this post you will probably not have a chance on her. An email won't suddenly change disinterest in a person. You may not believe me but I've tried most stuff out there and it isn't worth **** unless you have interest.
 

micams

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For lifeforce,
I think this situation is challenging but worth it. Besides, if I avoid using emails how can I improve my skill with it.
In my sarges, I receive a lot "I give you my mail, not my phone" and on internet dating you work first only by mail so for me, i's vital to increase my skills on that topic.
On the "art of seduction" forum, they told me to write many small, ligth hearted and humourous email until I make her dependent on them and she'll start to look for them and to be interested. A woman there told me that a rake sucessfully used this method on her. He for example use a story teller's mode of describing their first encounter and how she influenced his thinking by her stunning beauty.
I'm quite rookie in this email seduction thing but I'm frustated by the lack of result and I'll do what it takes to improve myself.
Besides the book tAos is a gem in seductive writing tactics.
 
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