"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Ok to start off, im new here. i've never really posted or anything because i currently have a gf and have not had the need to pick anyone up tho i have been bettering myself using the techniques here.
now on to my problem.

as i said before i do have a gf but i've recently started becoming less and less attracted to her for some reason. i feel as tho i can do better but i do deeply care for her. not only that but our relationship is based mainly on sex. there is almost nothing else there for me anyway.

to top it all off, there is another girl whom i have been talking to since before i met my gf. thing with her is that i've never actually met her. we met online through myspace and talked on the phone a lot over the summer and she fits the profile of my typical girl moreso than my gf (physically). a few weeks before we were supposed to meet she tells me that she just got a bf (but only because in an earlier conversation i told her that i wanted to wait until we met to let any feelings develop... which she took as "i dont have feelings for you" or some **** like that). she recently broke up with her boyfriend not 2 weeks afteri started going out with my current gf. that could very well be when i started to drift from my gf. my gf is like my best friend you can say. we share a few things in common and i can tell her almost anything. the other girl is more into the things that would like to be into but just dont do that often that is partying.

thing is my gf is kinda clingy. she keeps talking about marriage and kids.. shes 17 and im 19. thats just too far ahead for me to think. i hang on to the hope that if i ignore it the problem will just go away but i know it wont. and if i were to break up with her i know i would end up missing her because i cant see the new girl as anything more than a fvck buddy since going to parties and dancing with the same girl over and over just doesnt seem like fun. that and the fact that i've never actually met this girl. she could very well be murder on my nerves. and i know she can be a bit clingy because she was acting that way quite a bit when we talked on the phone this summer.

i just dont know what to do. i do love my gf and i know breaking up with her would break her heart, and thats something i just dont want to do. shes busting her ass just to get in shape for me. but as it is right now im unhappy with the relationship. im thinking of telling her that i need a break but not a breakup but that would hurt her just as much. i really dont want to hurt her. and i know breaking up with her with the hopes of hooking up with an internet girl that i never met is far fetched. before i wasnt as interested in her but recently ive seen new pictures of her that just make me want her. and i know that im letting my hormones get to me. but i just cant help it. i want her :/ my minds wondering what it would be like. i think its because my gf took my virginity and im just now getting the feel for girls. i feel like i can pull any girl i wanted and i want to try it to some extent.

im sorry for the long boring text but i really need some incite. i dont know what to do and i need another opinion on my situation.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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if you've never seen this internet girl, try going on a normal date with her and see how things go, if she turns out to be some girl that didn't meet your expectations, you still have your gf, just don't tell your GF
 

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You need to treat these two relationships seperately. Don't make decisions about your current gf that are based on how you feel about another girl. If your relationship with your gf is not what you want it to be, either work to fix it or to end it. If you decide to end it, then you can focus on the internet girl. But, it wouldn't be a bad idea to meet this internet girl while you are still in your current relationship. Often times when you have a crush on someone you've never met, you can idealize things about them that aren't really true. Once you meet this girl, you will start to humanize her and maybe find things you don't like. Until you do, you really can't determine if you really like this girl, rather than just a girl that you have invented in your head.

As far as repairing your current relationship, you need to be honest with your girlfriend about what your future expectations are (marriage, etc).

Hope this helps some.
 

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Only problem from my experience is it's often hard for a long term girlfriend who you have an emotional relationship with to compare to the fun and excitement of meeting someone new and all that goes along with that. You've seen your girlfriend at her worst as well as her best, and she's comfortable with you and acts like herself, while the new girl will act all happy and nice and perfect for the first few months but then the real her will come out, and you'll wind up liking her less than you like your current girlfriend now once the new car smell goes away. Or maybe you'll end up liking her who knows.

What I do know is you have to make choices to make you happy not to make other people happy. You say it will break your girls heart if you break up with her, but think of how she'll feel if you continue feeling this way and don't break it off until you've finally had enough like 5 years from now...

Hard to say from a paragraph but it seems to me like you don't really want to be in a relationship at all right now. You're young and you want to go out and have fun and I think that's exactly what you should do. You're only young once so you may as well fvck it up right the first time.
 

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Ollie said:
Only problem from my experience is it's often hard for a long term girlfriend who you have an emotional relationship with to compare to the fun and excitement of meeting someone new and all that goes along with that. You've seen your girlfriend at her worst as well as her best, and she's comfortable with you and acts like herself, while the new girl will act all happy and nice and perfect for the first few months but then the real her will come out, and you'll wind up liking her less than you like your current girlfriend now once the new car smell goes away. Or maybe you'll end up liking her who knows.

What I do know is you have to make choices to make you happy not to make other people happy. You say it will break your girls heart if you break up with her, but think of how she'll feel if you continue feeling this way and don't break it off until you've finally had enough like 5 years from now...

Hard to say from a paragraph but it seems to me like you don't really want to be in a relationship at all right now. You're young and you want to go out and have fun and I think that's exactly what you should do. You're only young once so you may as well fvck it up right the first time.
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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