Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Better you than me...KarmaSutra said:...Fvck, I sound like an old goddamn man?
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
Better you than me...KarmaSutra said:...Fvck, I sound like an old goddamn man?
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Nick ... where in my post did I say I wanted to use NLP to hypnotize / seduce women? Do you not know how to read? Or you can't comprehend the question, see one thing you don't like (NLP) and go off on your own tangent in an effort to try make yourself better by belittling a subject?NickBe said:I am not going to bother I can sit here arguing the fine points of NLP or I can go sleep with a woman I did not have to hypnotize to get into bed. You take your art I take mine.
Thank you great master. Tell me where does a DJ find time to make 325 posts in one month? Keyboard jockey anyone?NickBe said:I was not talking to you by that point....
But I will let that one slide.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Alright MacAvoy:MacAvoy said:END HIGHJACKING OF THREAD
Interesting. Here's a similar site you'd probably like.knglerxt said:I think the skeptic's dictionary sums it up quite nicely as usual: http://skepdic.com/neurolin.html
Time for me to do this. I'm thinking of looking into NLP. Not to seduce women, but to learn to have healthier thoughts about myself. I bought a huge book a few years ago on it, but got lost in the whole thing of watching people's eyeballs move in whatever direction.Francisco d'Anconia said:Back to what you want to do with your memories, I suggest changing the premise of the memories that you have of this woman. Here's something you can do, instead of remembering the past, think about the positive changes that you are incorporating into your life because of those past experiences. Think about the positive growth that you're making.
Think about the knowledge that you've learned that will benefit you with subsequent women that you will meet. Think about how the power and self control makes you feel when you engage women in the future. Think about the better quality women you will sarge because of these positive changes you are making. Hell, imagine how you will enact the perfect pickup with just the right woman and it will feel as if it happened effortlessly.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I know of a good visualization technique that Jose Silva teaches to forget about something or stop thinking of something like a girl for example or a craving from a cigarette etc...MacAvoy said:I find my mind always wondering and thinking about a certain someone. How can I create an NLP trigger to think of something else when she pops in my head? What would you suggest I replace her with in the trigger?
I've used triggers before but only briefly and for minor things. I'd appreciate any help.
Any of the books on Psycho-Cybernetics would be insightful. Also, Tony Robbins methodology is centered around NLP.reset said:...The book Mind Lines was mentioned on this board by A-Unit, as a tool to help reframe your own thoughts, any other recommendations?
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.