"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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someone800

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Alright...January 1st, 2009 at about 2AM...I break up with my girlfriend of four rough months over the phone. I had just gotten back from her house a few hours ago for a New Year's Eve party her family was having.
She was practically crying when I left. The main reason I broke up with her? Her father. Every time we went out on a date, he would always require her to contact him about every 30 minutes be it a text or phone call. Also, when I would pick her up from her house, if he was home, he would sit me down and practically threaten me. It drove me up the wall. Especially with the keep-in-contact thing during the dates. It felt like he was breaking in between the relationship.
I know you got to have trust with the parents. But I tried. Unlike a lot of guys that I know that go for girls, I have more morals. I could have lost my virginity several times, but I still have it I strongly believe because of my moral fiber. I am not ashamed of that.
But her father...even if I was an angel, he would still threaten me out of lack of trust. Even though he at one point mentioned I was the best guy he's seen for his daughter as far as treating her, he literally threatened me about things I don't even want to mention.
I just couldn't take it anymore and I broke up with her because of this. It was way to much stress on my shoulders.

Since then I have dated several girls for brief periods of time. I have easily gotten over them. However, its been months and I still can't get over this girl. I keep thinking about her and everything. About how I want to get back with her for a LTR. But I can't. Because I seem to have a target on my head.

She still has feelings to, but because of this struggle, I and perhaps her, just don't know what to do. She's an adult and her father still checks in on her all the time. I just don't know what to do.

Any suggestions? Please?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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sounds fishy... unhealthy relationship. a little too close with his adult daughter
 

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Dude, you're a Don Juan. Confront her father. Simple.
Talk things out with him, and come to an agreement.
Good luck bro.
 

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LinkinParkROX said:
Dude, you're a Don Juan. Confront her father. Simple.
Talk things out with him, and come to an agreement.
Good luck bro.
I did. New Year's Eve when he again threatened me. I remember him asking me if I had any comments or something like that...and that's when I started to say what I felt. He cut me off halfway into my first sentence saying he doesn't need me telling him how to be a parent...
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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LinkinParkROX

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Get the girl to stand up to him then. If you're worth fighting for at all, she'll persuade him to stop being a dick. If not, next her.
 

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Tell him that if he wants his daughter to be happy, he shouldn't be doing that. Say you know how it feels to be a parent, but it's not a healthy and right way of showing your concern for your daughter.
 

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ItsTheAttitude said:
Tell him that if he wants his daughter to be happy, he shouldn't be doing that. Say you know how it feels to be a parent, but it's not a healthy and right way of showing your concern for your daughter.
Thanks...but that's kind of what I tried telling him New Years Eve...
 

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Someone800, do you find her more appealing because of this whole drama surrounding you guys dating on some level. Is she your forbidden apple, and thats why u r drawn to her?

I come from a really over protective family, and although my father and brother may not be as bad as this girls father they are not far off. I always think 'what daddy dont know wont hurt him'.

If you really like her and want to give it a chance, ask her too date u without letting her father know, or alternatively like linkinpark says, get her to stand up to him.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I say that "relationship" is dead and cannot be revived. Just move on as you have been and perhaps as she has been. You will end up in square or worse if you try mending things with her. If she truly care about you and she is aware that her father is the root cause of the breakup, her father will pay for her resentment someday. Just leave things the way they have been the past few months or so.
 
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