TL;DR: what is the correct response when a girl you have been having sex with for a few months in an open relationship starts saying something like "I don't think we need to have sex every time, we can just hang out and stuff"?
G'day sosuave! I think this is over and have deleted all contact details, but I'm also wondering what I could have done differently here.
I met a girl early thirties at a party a few months back. I was hot stuff, sarging the entire party "short set" style. She gave me proximity IOI around midnight, so I isolated, escalated fast, extracted to the back of my car, and had sex. This took around 30 minutes in total with only token LMR.
She had sex with me expecting only ONS but I converted to FB. This made her FB number 3 at the time, and number 5 of my GFTOW after breaking up with my 5-year LTR. Around 1.5 months in, she went for "the talk" but unexpectedly went for an open relationship. I expect this is because she saw me sarging like crazy every time she saw me out.
I gradually lost FB 2 then FB 1 due to them falling in love or expecting too much from me. This could have been in response to too much involvement and betaness from me. (At that time I was a little depressed due to an injury I had making it hard to do weights and exercise. Physio has sorted that out so I'll be back in business soon!)
A month ago I went overseas for three weeks and before I went she rang me up to see me before I went. I may have been too eager to see her, and gave her a Friday night rather than making her wait.
I got back two weeks ago and saw her a week ago. She was just off her period and said she was too sore for sex. I figured that was fine so I didn't push it.
I saw her again tonight. This time, before I even started escalating, she said something approximately like "I don't think we need to have sex every time, we can just hang out and stuff". She asked if I understood, and my response was to just laugh at her and say something like "people tell me a lot of things, sometimes I remember them" then follow up with "it's all cool, nothing has to happen, but if things are going to happen then it's good to just let them flow".
I chucked on a movie and waited a bit then escalated hard and got knocked back. Wash rinse repeat two more times and she was into it but stopped me each time. I'm guessing she told herself before she came over that she was going to deny sex. I probably could have gone for it harder but I was fed up with what I though was some stupid games so I let her go. She asked to see me again but I gave a non-committal answer.
As soon as she left I deleted all contact details. If she calls I'm going ramp up the game playing and flakiness to maximum.
My question is this: What could I have done diffently, on both a strategic and tactical level, in response to the "just want to hang out" sh!t test? What could I have done to prevent her trying it on in the first place? Or is it just that four months as a FB is too long without a girl trying on the bullsh!t?
G'day sosuave! I think this is over and have deleted all contact details, but I'm also wondering what I could have done differently here.
I met a girl early thirties at a party a few months back. I was hot stuff, sarging the entire party "short set" style. She gave me proximity IOI around midnight, so I isolated, escalated fast, extracted to the back of my car, and had sex. This took around 30 minutes in total with only token LMR.
She had sex with me expecting only ONS but I converted to FB. This made her FB number 3 at the time, and number 5 of my GFTOW after breaking up with my 5-year LTR. Around 1.5 months in, she went for "the talk" but unexpectedly went for an open relationship. I expect this is because she saw me sarging like crazy every time she saw me out.
I gradually lost FB 2 then FB 1 due to them falling in love or expecting too much from me. This could have been in response to too much involvement and betaness from me. (At that time I was a little depressed due to an injury I had making it hard to do weights and exercise. Physio has sorted that out so I'll be back in business soon!)
A month ago I went overseas for three weeks and before I went she rang me up to see me before I went. I may have been too eager to see her, and gave her a Friday night rather than making her wait.
I got back two weeks ago and saw her a week ago. She was just off her period and said she was too sore for sex. I figured that was fine so I didn't push it.
I saw her again tonight. This time, before I even started escalating, she said something approximately like "I don't think we need to have sex every time, we can just hang out and stuff". She asked if I understood, and my response was to just laugh at her and say something like "people tell me a lot of things, sometimes I remember them" then follow up with "it's all cool, nothing has to happen, but if things are going to happen then it's good to just let them flow".
I chucked on a movie and waited a bit then escalated hard and got knocked back. Wash rinse repeat two more times and she was into it but stopped me each time. I'm guessing she told herself before she came over that she was going to deny sex. I probably could have gone for it harder but I was fed up with what I though was some stupid games so I let her go. She asked to see me again but I gave a non-committal answer.
As soon as she left I deleted all contact details. If she calls I'm going ramp up the game playing and flakiness to maximum.
My question is this: What could I have done diffently, on both a strategic and tactical level, in response to the "just want to hang out" sh!t test? What could I have done to prevent her trying it on in the first place? Or is it just that four months as a FB is too long without a girl trying on the bullsh!t?
