"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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help opening sets?

venser

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hey all,
so ive just discovered a problem of mine. as a sophomore in college ive been living it up. i have no problem macking on girls, while last year was totally dry til almost summer, ive been on fire since. ive been hanging out with an honest 10 and an 8 on the side. i dont know how many girls ive hooked up with since starting sophomore year. anyways the point is im not new to women.

lately though i think ive realized ive discovered myself a little problem. At parties, i think i have problems opening up sets of shyer girls.

the freshman are still pretty shy at the moment and thus all the girls sort of stick together and at parties you get these chunks of (2-4) girls just dancing/talking togheter. when i try to open, i think i get short responses just because one girl doesnt want to seem like a slut or seem easy in front of the rest..

today i havce the perfect example. so im talking to friend on this couch its like 1am and im kinda tired from dancing with some chick friends of mine. i see this group of freshman, 3 of them, an 8-9, and maybe two 7s. anyways, im pretty sure there all checking me out. through the next 2 or so hours, i can tell that at least 2 of the 3 are clearly interested in me and while im sitting on this couch kinda stoned looking theres this ass moving closer and closer to me like literally 3 inches away. so of course i grab my balls and run in after awhile. i open with something lame, it was a question but i forgot, anyways one of them asnwers it and then stops, leaving me in the dust. yet i still feel like there totally into me.

any of you guys experience anything like this? i think i just need a better opener or soemthing. or i dunno maybe i should run a wingman attack next time. sorry im writing so much, im still kinda buzzed and then i dont realize how much im typing.
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

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when you say she just leaves you in the dust, I'm assuming she stopped talking, but her attention was still focused on you, rather than looking for an exit

the girls who are shy are just not gonna respond on the same level as more outgoing girls. they're all self-conscious and introverted and need you to work a little to bring them out of their shell. but if their attention is still on you to the point you can sense they're still attracted to you, you don't really have a problem beyond having to be a little more proactive. they're waiting for you to take control and lead the interaction somewhere
 

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venser said:
any of you guys experience anything like this? i think i just need a better opener or soemthing. or i dunno maybe i should run a wingman attack next time. sorry im writing so much, im still kinda buzzed and then i dont realize how much im typing.
You should read some of my recent posts... I talk about this crap alot. Your opening DOESNT matter... I love just saying the most random thing and it works out. It's because its not about what your saying its about you and how you present yourself.
Just keep trying... You should be cold approaching Alot! Do it so much til no longer it is an issue ever, and rejection doesnt phaze you.. then do some more cold approaches.
 
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