"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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So I met this girl online. Things were great at first she..... made a lot of initiative and we made out alot over the first 2 months or so.

Thats when things turned sour, she has a very weird temper/insecurity issue. ( If just glancing at a pretty girl who is walking in my direction, she would get pissed and not talk to me during the date )

Later on I also learnt of her past relationship with her ex that ended 3 months before meeting. They were together for 5 years. He "cheated" with her online by talking with other girls.

I found out she maintains contact with him so as to be "friends" since they shared a long time together. I trusted her for awhile but at the same time I won't forget about it.

Things became worse and this time we were "official". She mentioned over text that she feels bad for me as she thinks about him whenever we are out together and needed time to think. At this point I shouldve exited, but since this was my first relationship, I clinged on.

After the incident, I became more clingy and needy towards her unconsciously. Her texting became less and less. We talked less as well, always trying to not step on each other toes.

She finally initiated to break up over phone while she was overseas with her group of friends. Reason being I was needy and she could not commit and wanted freedom.

Any thoughts? As of right now, I keep hoping that there is some hope for some reason.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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So I met this girl online. Things were great at first she..... made a lot of initiative and we made out alot over the first 2 months or so.

Thats when things turned sour, she has a very weird temper/insecurity issue. ( If just glancing at a pretty girl who is walking in my direction, she would get pissed and not talk to me during the date )

Later on I also learnt of her past relationship with her ex that ended 3 months before meeting. They were together for 5 years. He "cheated" with her online by talking with other girls.

I found out she maintains contact with him so as to be "friends" since they shared a long time together. I trusted her for awhile but at the same time I won't forget about it.

Things became worse and this time we were "official". She mentioned over text that she feels bad for me as she thinks about him whenever we are out together and needed time to think. At this point I shouldve exited, but since this was my first relationship, I clinged on.

After the incident, I became more clingy and needy towards her unconsciously. Her texting became less and less. We talked less as well, always trying to not step on each other toes.

She finally initiated to break up over phone while she was overseas with her group of friends. Reason being I was needy and she could not commit and wanted freedom.

Any thoughts? As of right now, I keep hoping that there is some hope for some reason.
Sure

"Who are you? And, what are you doing with your life?"

Right now, these are questions you should be asking yourself.

She is a non-event, you have more important things.
 

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1) met online (red flag #1)
2) insecurities, aka a crazy b1tch (red flag #2)
3) had an LTR - at this point you should be so out.

Do i need to say more? Dont mess with em low quality b1tches. See it as a blessing. She probably sucked some d!ck on her vacation and decided she wants her "freedom".

Hit the gym and start saving some money. Dont chase em.
 

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You need to Kill that desperation! She's gone. It's okay to make some mistakes as long as you learn from them. Just don't be afraid to try again next time.

"The best way to find the women of your dreams is to become the man of your dreams."
It seems that you still don't know what type of girl that you want. Do you know that The Relationship Begins Before You Meet Her?

The fact that she was talking about her ex while you were with her indicates that you still don't know how to sweep her off her feet.

Reading DJ Bible is a good start if you want to be smooth with women.

The links & quote I'm giving you should be enough for you to realize your mistakes & what needed to be done in order to be a better man.
 

Thorninmyside

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There's nothing to help with other than to analyse all the times you should have bailed out on this thing.

The only thing worse than a low quality woman is a man who chases one.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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So I met this girl online. Things were great at first she..... made a lot of initiative and we made out alot over the first 2 months or so.

Thats when things turned sour, she has a very weird temper/insecurity issue. ( If just glancing at a pretty girl who is walking in my direction, she would get pissed and not talk to me during the date )

Later on I also learnt of her past relationship with her ex that ended 3 months before meeting. They were together for 5 years. He "cheated" with her online by talking with other girls.

I found out she maintains contact with him so as to be "friends" since they shared a long time together. I trusted her for awhile but at the same time I won't forget about it.

Things became worse and this time we were "official". She mentioned over text that she feels bad for me as she thinks about him whenever we are out together and needed time to think. At this point I shouldve exited, but since this was my first relationship, I clinged on.

After the incident, I became more clingy and needy towards her unconsciously. Her texting became less and less. We talked less as well, always trying to not step on each other toes.

She finally initiated to break up over phone while she was overseas with her group of friends. Reason being I was needy and she could not commit and wanted freedom.

Any thoughts? As of right now, I keep hoping that there is some hope for some reason.
Indeed. Walk away.

You failed when she told you she felt sorry for you because she was always thinking of him when you two were together.

You should have said "don't feel sorry for me. I'm good." Then walked out of her life for good. Flush her number. Block her on all social media and go 100% no contact and go date other women.
 
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