"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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Help on girls that want to hang out with you but act otherwise

909pua

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how do you deal with women who are willing to hang out with you but it seems that you are always the one initiating from holding hands, to kissing, to touching, while she's always relaxed and laid back and always crossing her arms. A good example is at the movie theatres, she got her arms crossed the whole time if i don't hold or touch her but the minute I do, she starts to touch back...she would never initiate anything.

and plus at the end of the same night on her way to dropping me at my car, i hinted to have sex in back of her car ("Let's park for a few minutes), but she says "not tonight" and then I say in a cool mood "ok, that's cool"..then i kiss her in the lips and i leave.

How do you turn something like this around so she wants to initiate everything with you and ask for sex? What should I do to turn this into my favor?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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You need to get over this chick dude.... she's not into you for anything but the occassional fuvk and if you get all emotional over her, you will lose that option too....

The way you prevent this in general is to make a girl attracted to you and chase you. Your chasing this chick and she knows it.

This one will be game over very soon if you continue down this path..


Now I'm going out to meet some slvvvts....I suggest you do the same!!


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Actually, if a woman is willing and interested in hanging out with you, she's interested.

You just need to take charge more, get a bit more aggressive instead of semi-passive.

Also, your body language and verbal communication skills need to be more persuasive. Parking a car and hinting for sex is weak, you need to instead build the tension first -- make her yearn for sex.

When that happens, you can just get it on literally anywhere you want.

If a woman crosses her arms, mention it. I usually like to tease the girl...

"You know, crossing your arm is very cold, uncool, and suggests that you're not a very friendly person."

If that doesn't do the trick, then you know she's got issues.
 

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hey allure,

well i dont know man..i dont know who to listen to or who to not listen to. it seems that when one makes an advice, the other refutes it and now its like a broken record. well the day after the movies, she passed by my work and visits me and we talk for like 15 min...and she was blunted on some weed.

i also tried that a bit more aggressive and semi-passive at one point and it got me in trouble...the end result is she told me a few times "well i have plans tonight" so i toned it down a bit...

bottom line im working on this other girl, she's an HB9, so hopefully i can take her out nex week and get my mind off this weed girl..
 
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1st--theres nothing wrong with weed...lets make that clear
When a woman takes a step back from you, you take two steps..

if she was interested you woulda got some butt that night or whatever..
i normally look at little things like crossing arms the way they talkin to me to determine their intrest...

stop giving her attention and she might come back...or not...and if she dont,,,pfffttt watever
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Willis said:
1st--theres nothing wrong with weed...lets make that clear
When a woman takes a step back from you, you take two steps..

if she was interested you woulda got some butt that night or whatever..
i normally look at little things like crossing arms the way they talkin to me to determine their intrest...

stop giving her attention and she might come back...or not...and if she dont,,,pfffttt watever
well i dont know how much this girl is into me but at work, in the AM around 9 on the day we watched public enemies, i text her saying "there's a movie at such and such time, if you made other plans or you think its too late, let me know ASAP, so i can do other things"...she didn;t text back ASAP until the end of the work day. instead i had a DR appointment the same day and left a note in my office that I had an appointment at 3 pm so i had to leave around 130 pm. Then around 4 pm when i was at the doctors she text me saying "Hey I passed by your desk and you're not there and it says you are at a doctors appointment. what time are you getting out from the Doctor?" so from there we made contact and met 2 hours later...to watch the movie

btw i only text or call this girl once a week. most of the time that i see her is at work and its her passing by and visiting me, its not the other way around where I'm looking for her...

and not only that, it seems at this point that we hang out, im paying for everything, she dont offer anymore. the only time she offered to pay for me (my dinner) was the first night i boned her... after that its all me paying, she won't even offer or anything...
 

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909pua said:
hey allure,

well i dont know man..i dont know who to listen to or who to not listen to. it seems that when one makes an advice, the other refutes it and now its like a broken record. well the day after the movies, she passed by my work and visits me and we talk for like 15 min...and she was blunted on some weed.

i also tried that a bit more aggressive and semi-passive at one point and it got me in trouble...the end result is she told me a few times "well i have plans tonight" so i toned it down a bit...

bottom line im working on this other girl, she's an HB9, so hopefully i can take her out nex week and get my mind off this weed girl..
Bro, you've got one-itis for this chick because you got some @ss from her. The main problem you have with this chick is:

a) your not a challenge....(she knows you want her and all your doing is stroking her ego when you give her all this attention)

b) you make her feel like a slvt: (every chick has a slvt within her, however you don't want to THAT the only reason you hang out with her. In other words, she knows that the only reason you wanna hang out with her is to fuvk her AND she doesn't like you that much at this point to be your fuvk buddy.


Start spinning more plates and put her on the back-burner. Turn her offers to hang out DOWN a few times and keep her guessing. Think of it this way.... if there was a chick that liked you and you knew she liked you and was always available to hang out whenever you suggested it....would you be into her??? I doubt it.....too easy....not fun.


Now you know why she's not that into you....




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Pimp-sicle said:
Bro, you've got one-itis for this chick because you got some @ss from her. The main problem you have with this chick is:

a) your not a challenge....(she knows you want her and all your doing is stroking her ego when you give her all this attention)

b) you make her feel like a slvt: (every chick has a slvt within her, however you don't want to THAT the only reason you hang out with her. In other words, she knows that the only reason you wanna hang out with her is to fuvk her AND she doesn't like you that much at this point to be your fuvk buddy.


Start spinning more plates and put her on the back-burner. Turn her offers to hang out DOWN a few times and keep her guessing. Think of it this way.... if there was a chick that liked you and you knew she liked you and was always available to hang out whenever you suggested it....would you be into her??? I doubt it.....too easy....not fun.


Now you know why she's not that into you....




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alright pimpsicle, thanks for the advice. At least if i follow your advice, its not like she will stop talkin to me...at least the game is still alive...and no bridges are burned. problem with this girl is when she wants to hang out she doesn't ask for it directly. she would say something like "what time are you going home today?" or "what are you doing today?" she won't ask for it directly. I'm the one that supplements her questions and completes the sentence, which I don't like doing...so i really dont know when she will ask directly for me to turn her down.

i'll be working on another HB and a few i met online for the meantime

so what do you think what allure had to say in this post? it seems yours and his ideals cancel each other...
 
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