"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Help Needed: Escalating to fvcking...

Soprano

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This is the one big part of my game I'm having problems with and really need some help with since i got a date with this really hot and nice girl on friday. i just dont know how to do it...its not in my personality or look to be all 'sexy' acting. i've never had like a one night stand or fvcked a girl after just being on a date or two, its always been with a girlfriend.

what are some good ways to make the escalation from talking to fvcking?

i read a lot of posts/stories about how people "bring a girl back my place and get it on" and its like damn it seems so easy but thats the one thing i cant do lol. it frustrates me because i've made a lot of progress in every other area except that one.

im not exactly the most attractive guy either which i think makes it harder...and im not being all self conscious and ****, just realistic. im overweight but im working on it.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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A good rule of thumb, is to escalate on high points.

If she says something funny, while you are both laughing, put your arm round her, or grab her hand, or whatever.

You can do this if you make her laugh as well, but its better the other way, because you are rewarding her, and made her feel like she earned the touch. If she ever backs off from it, just try it again, at another HIGH POINT.

Try a thumb war. This is always gold. If you win, you say "I won, that means I get a kiss on the cheek" (then of course, you turn your head really quick, and "steal" it.) If she wins, turn it around, or whatever.

Take advantage of your hands being together with this as well. As soon as the thumb war is over, you still have her hand, and you can spin her around into your arms, and say 'good job. You put up a hell of a fight,'

Once your broken the touch barrier, you can go back there. Go for the hand hold, or hand on thighs. If she's cool with it, wait a little while, get her laughing or vice versa, and start rubbing a little bit. If she's cool with that, and doing it back, you can kiss her anytime you want.

After that, have an excuse to go to your place (to watch a movie, or look at pictures, it doesnt matter) or capitalize on ANYTHING that might be an excuse to go to her place. "Oh, you have stuffed pandas? I love stuffed pandas! You have to show them to me right now!" Then, makeout, foreplay, fvck, and RUN! jk.
 

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horaholic said:
A good rule of thumb, is to escalate on high points.

If she says something funny, while you are both laughing, put your arm round her, or grab her hand, or whatever.

You can do this if you make her laugh as well, but its better the other way, because you are rewarding her, and made her feel like she earned the touch. If she ever backs off from it, just try it again, at another HIGH POINT.

Try a thumb war. This is always gold. If you win, you say "I won, that means I get a kiss on the cheek" (then of course, you turn your head really quick, and "steal" it.) If she wins, turn it around, or whatever.

Take advantage of your hands being together with this as well. As soon as the thumb war is over, you still have her hand, and you can spin her around into your arms, and say 'good job. You put up a hell of a fight,'

Once your broken the touch barrier, you can go back there. Go for the hand hold, or hand on thighs. If she's cool with it, wait a little while, get her laughing or vice versa, and start rubbing a little bit. If she's cool with that, and doing it back, you can kiss her anytime you want.


After that, have an excuse to go to your place (to watch a movie, or look at pictures, it doesnt matter) or capitalize on ANYTHING that might be an excuse to go to her place. "Oh, you have stuffed pandas? I love stuffed pandas! You have to show them to me right now!" Then, makeout, foreplay, fvck, and RUN! jk.
nice thank you. the bolded is a big help :D
 

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A good rule of thumb is to hit her over the head with your club and drag her into your cave.
 

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Shortened version of what Horaholic said...any girl that will hold your hand will probably kiss you. Just escalate slowly like he said and go step by step if that's all you can do. Personally I wouldn't do it that way, I'd just kiss her but if you have trouble escalating then he gave some golden advice. Once you start kissing her make sure you work on her neck and collar bone and such, and once she's comfortable with that let your hands wander to her thighs and rub them gently, and try to feel if she slightly spreads her legs apart. Doesn't always happen but thats a sure sign she's primed and ready. Don't kiss her like Carol and Mike Brady kissed on the Brady Bunch. Key is to turn her on. Alcohol helps as well lol
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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thanks for the tips we made out but no fvck but im confident it'll be coming next after my stellar performance last night:cool: she told me she thinks im sexy even though im blatantly not so i'll take that as a pretty obvious IOI lol
 

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Two things that will help you:

1. Breaking the touch barrier: Ask to see her hand. Don't over analyze by noticing if the palms are up or down like that Mystery Method **** teaches, just take her hand and feel her palm. If it feels tense/soft, comment on it, and say that she "Must often feel relaxed/sometimes worries about small things too much". Then give her a little hand massage. I do this all the time, and it works.

2. To escalate to sex, read Vin DiCarlo's Escalation Ladder. You'll be excited to hang out with a girl after you read that, it's how I lost my virginity.
 
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