help me with this ********!

[sexy_kuta]

thanks guy,

i deicded this woman wasnt for me over a month ago but i tried my to best walk away,
but i become weak when she comes abck. thats the only thing. i need to fight that weakness. walking away isnt a problem, its hard but im capable of doing it, i learned that with my last ex.

i deleted her pics. emails.. phone number, over a month ago.
her only reachablity of me was texting.
she gave me strong singals in the beginning, stronger than mine. i can tell you for a fact that her interest levels were always, always higher than mine. man she was kissing ME more than i was kissing her!

but you are right. i need to try harder to move on. i just thought that her investment in me was long term. so i took a chance. she gave me FULL attention. but little did i know, i was the rebound. i had my foot down the whole time we dated. i never acted like this. honestly, i never ONCe told her how much she ment to me. or anything related to that. but i acted in a profict manner, but you guys are right, my feelings and emotions got too high. because i got the illusion that i'll never meet a girl like htis. because i havnt "YET" . she had alot of confident, and was funny, but she wasnt enough for me. i knew this long time ago and i tried walking away but hwen she tries pulling strings and u know your weakness is inside.. then its a little hard. i cut her off 3 times!!!!!!! two times it was a month and a few days.

im going to try harder and try to relize that im a fuking tampon for her.
thats all i am right now.. but i know iwasnt like that before..

w/e though, i learned my lesson. what i need to do is invest what i have into a real woman who KNOWs what she wants. and know the right woman for me.

I also need to control my ego, i need to invest little at a time, NOT all at once. that was my other mistake. i guess i becaome a little too excited.
i tried to slow down. i seen her every week, once, i made her wait for the kiss a little longer, and sh1t.
but i had fun, and im looking foward for the furture!

thanks guys, but i really need to walk away from this b1tch

 

[jonwon]

thanks guy,

i deicded this woman wasnt for me over a month ago but i tried my to best walk away,
but i become weak when she comes abck. thats the only thing. i need to fight that weakness. walking away isnt a problem, its hard but im capable of doing it, i learned that with my last ex.

i deleted her pics. emails.. phone number, over a month ago.
her only reachablity of me was texting.
she gave me strong singals in the beginning, stronger than mine. i can tell you for a fact that her interest levels were always, always higher than mine. man she was kissing ME more than i was kissing her!

but you are right. i need to try harder to move on. i just thought that her investment in me was long term. so i took a chance. she gave me FULL attention. but little did i know, i was the rebound. i had my foot down the whole time we dated. i never acted like this. honestly, i never ONCe told her how much she ment to me. or anything related to that. but i acted in a profict manner, but you guys are right, my feelings and emotions got too high. because i got the illusion that i'll never meet a girl like htis. because i havnt "YET" . she had alot of confident, and was funny, but she wasnt enough for me. i knew this long time ago and i tried walking away but hwen she tries pulling strings and u know your weakness is inside.. then its a little hard. i cut her off 3 times!!!!!!! two times it was a month and a few days.

im going to try harder and try to relize that im a fuking tampon for her.
thats all i am right now.. but i know iwasnt like that before..

w/e though, i learned my lesson. what i need to do is invest what i have into a real woman who KNOWs what she wants. and know the right woman for me.

I also need to control my ego, i need to invest little at a time, NOT all at once. that was my other mistake. i guess i becaome a little too excited.
i tried to slow down. i seen her every week, once, i made her wait for the kiss a little longer, and sh1t.
but i had fun, and im looking foward for the furture!

thanks guys, but i really need to walk away from this b1tch

first:
Stop thinking about what a women wants, start to concentrate on what you want. Part of the solution there for you. Real women want a real man, be that man by knowing, what women you want and not settling for any other! (unless it is a FB, hence the term FB for women that dont make it to your GF grade). Time to shift the thinking!

Your ego was not about your tricks or style, this is irrelivent!
your ego was your emotional outbursts when you realised this chick did not like you the way you had hoped, you got it right when you said you wont invest too much emotional investment! This is a great way to be, alway always make the women invest the most! First! Then show her how you feel only after she as made it crystal clear! Its a silly rule but hey you learned why it came about. Also when you get rejected, dont behave like a drama queen, forget it and move on, or be forever in the zone! Just like you are now, i know it aint easy but for your sanity you need to do it.

reflect on what you could have done to improve and thats all, the rest means nothing it is gone, learn from it is all you can.

I would also reccomend you find out where you stand and lay some ground rules early on! When you go on dates, make sure the women knows its a date! Make sure you stay out of friend zone by, making it clear as early as you can that you are not her male friend, not 3-4months or 1-2 weeks down the road. you do this at the start, subtly.

Take a girl out for a date! You dont have to communicate that you are not a male friend but also if she trys to put you in the catagory, simply state your ground and your way! Some guys accept women saying "we can be just friends" or somethings similer, these guys go along with it, in the hope the women will like them and change her mind. These guys are loosers, these guys are not YOU! you now know a better way and that way is to beleive in yourself and state "sorry dont need any more friends, guess i will see you around, or why not phone me when you decide to stop playing games".

there you go.

At least your learning and taking a chance to sort yourself out, you may be heading for big things, or in the very least a higher state of self respect! meaning a women of quality and not just any thing that simply comes into your life.

Maybe concentrate on upping your confidence by giving yourself more options by talking to more women, in that not worrying about 1 women especcially for some-one as young as you are.

 

[sexy_kuta]

thanks man,

well i just wanna take some time and notice the things i've done in the relationship. see if i can prevent them.

1. i should have denied those mixed singals before,
2. when she talked about her ex more than 3 times. i should have walked away
3. i should have had more than one plate spinning (but its hard for me to even find a plate thats worth spinning!)
4. should NEVER invest as much as i did.. only little at a time.
5.i gotta grab my balls more often,
6. didnt test her enough

but i also did many good things in the " beginning"

most of the dates were all my ideas. i picked them,
i also had my foot down, she disrespected me before and i gave her the silience treatment, then she didnt do it again during our dating session.. then after i cut her off. she came back. and she tried to use me for rides so i told her straight up, "listen im not someone who you can call at 3 am to get picked up, you mistaken me for some other guy" then she was speechless and i left. another 3 weeks she came back and never disrespected me again
so i wasnt that bad before, but you are right. i turned afc, i lost my confidence when her actions didnt match her words. when i knew she didnt feel the same way about me as i felt for her.

but im determine to suceed. i want to bring more value to my self respect.
im a good guy, i know what i got to offer in a relationship(not htis bs that has been going on last 3 months)

i treated her iwth respect and not ONCe i was clingy, i was always confident around her, she told her friends that she loved how i was always straight forward with her... i wasnt born like that, i developed those traits,

i guess i just had a NASTY ass fall, but im back up and running

thanks alot man, you inspire me for the better. i will look back at this thread in the furture incase i ever fall again.

just one question though.. im accepting the fact that we are friends and nothing more, and im not looking more than that, because i know what kind of woman she is.

but i wanna use her, to improve myself. i wanna have her around JUST as a friend. menaing only on msn but no phone. so that way i can learn to control my emotions. i just look back at the fukups i did and i know not to do it again.

if i could control my self before. i can control myself now.
only reason i got mad when she texted me. because i wasnt expecting that.

i was expecting a "sorry" because i wanted her to feel guilty. but little did i know that, she lost me. thats enough guilt for her.
she taught me ALOT about woman. on how they act. ESPECIALLY AROUND SHOES! haha, so she could teach me more, i used to always studied her actions.

 

[jonwon]

thanks man,

well i just wanna take some time and notice the things i've done in the relationship. see if i can prevent them.

1. i should have denied those mixed singals before,
2. when she talked about her ex more than 3 times. i should have walked away
3. i should have had more than one plate spinning (but its hard for me to even find a plate thats worth spinning!)
4. should NEVER invest as much as i did.. only little at a time.
5.i gotta grab my balls more often,
6. didnt test her enough

but i also did many good things in the " beginning"

most of the dates were all my ideas. i picked them,
i also had my foot down, she disrespected me before and i gave her the silience treatment, then she didnt do it again during our dating session.. then after i cut her off. she came back. and she tried to use me for rides so i told her straight up, "listen im not someone who you can call at 3 am to get picked up, you mistaken me for some other guy" then she was speechless and i left. another 3 weeks she came back and never disrespected me again
so i wasnt that bad before, but you are right. i turned afc, i lost my confidence when her actions didnt match her words. when i knew she didnt feel the same way about me as i felt for her.

but im determine to suceed. i want to bring more value to my self respect.
im a good guy, i know what i got to offer in a relationship(not htis bs that has been going on last 3 months)

i treated her iwth respect and not ONCe i was clingy, i was always confident around her, she told her friends that she loved how i was always straight forward with her... i wasnt born like that, i developed those traits,

i guess i just had a NASTY ass fall, but im back up and running

thanks alot man, you inspire me for the better. i will look back at this thread in the furture incase i ever fall again.

just one question though.. im accepting the fact that we are friends and nothing more, and im not looking more than that, because i know what kind of woman she is.

but i wanna use her, to improve myself. i wanna have her around JUST as a friend. menaing only on msn but no phone. so that way i can learn to control my emotions. i just look back at the fukups i did and i know not to do it again.

if i could control my self before. i can control myself now.
only reason i got mad when she texted me. because i wasnt expecting that.

i was expecting a "sorry" because i wanted her to feel guilty. but little did i know that, she lost me. thats enough guilt for her.
she taught me ALOT about woman. on how they act. ESPECIALLY AROUND SHOES! haha, so she could teach me more, i used to always studied her actions.

And you was doing so well too.

Nice come back post was good to read, keep acting the way you did at first is a great move, I also loved how you handled to car/lift situation, nice move, I would never be some women’s personal taxi cab.

Look as for the friend thing.

I would like to believe you want this girl just as a friend but I don’t think your being totally honest here! I think you have an emotional attachment to this girl and it is already effecting your frame.

The girls is simply not interested.

She has tried to use you in a lot of ways, ways I personally would not tolerate, in truth I would have dumped this women along time ago.
Why drag this on?

She as used you for emotion support when she broke up with the Ex.
She has talked about the Ex to you on more the one occasion, your not her shrink!
She tried to get you to give her lifts, with out giving much back.

All this and more a lot more and all she did was give you a kiss, how sweet! No really, be some bi*hes ***** due to that, hell man no way!

Look waste your time on this girl if you so choose, but don’t lie about it, your not fooling anyone here, if your going to be mates with her don’t come out with some coc* and bu** story to justify it, it does not wash here.

Your interest is still high and you cant bear the fact she does not like you, most men would have forgot about her along time ago and moved on.

Only way this is salvageable is if she makes an effort and a mean a momentus effort to get you! Otherwise my ego and my self respect would not accept it, she as rejected you in so many ways and like a chump you keep going back for more and for more.
No wonder its effecting your self respect and mental state!

So don’t lie about why your going back be honest, not for the sake of this board but for the sake of what you want and if you want to continue dragging this on.

She would have got it perfect then exactly where she wants you, the place she as wanted you from the start. A Male buddie to go shopping for shoes and give her a lift from her BF houses.

1 question: Can you really bear the thought of picking her up from a guys house after he as had his way with her and you’re the chump to collect her to take her back home?
2. Or are you the guy to walk around like some princess shopping for shoes and hangbags for a women who is not interested sexually?

Is this what you want?

If so you ain’t practicing any skills other then trying to fit into a girls dress and shoes yourelf.

Sorry but that’s my truth!

Best to practice on new girls, there are lots of them.

Seems your in the zone with this one, like is said you wont listen!

 

[sexy_kuta]

well i do see your point, i should give it more than when im fully over her,

i do have some sort of attachment, but i seriously dont want to work it out, its like part of me is hoping she will change.. and the other part of me is thinking she wont even have chance u know what i mean? like its just not that i want to hook up with her like this. im hoping she will change THEn i can try to game her. i havnt tried gaming her for a while like a few months because i knew the state she was in.

i never Once went shopping with her, i know that rule she tried turning me in a gay buddie but i denied it. it was all jokes thought, she wanted to bleach my gotie haha.

but you are right. she needs to make a real effort. and like i thought of that a while back thats why i cut her off but besides phone number, i wanted her to make a real effort by phoning me.
but now my eyes are fully opend.
i seriously wouldnt lie bro, im honest, if i wanna go back with her i will simply tell u and i'd asked for tips on that. but i dont want her back, well not like this, shes not the girl i wanted. shes not the same as before.
so im gonna give it a few more months, until im stable. safier that way.

she was confident in my eyes, secure, but the baggage took over her.

once again i would like to thank you man for helping me out. im looking foward for more conversations.
i'll be posting an update in a few weeks