"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Help me figure out what this woman wants

h_amati

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Hello,

I've know this woman for 4 - 5 months, she is my yoga teacher. She is 46 (I'm 38) and looks 10 years younger, easily a 8.5 - 9. Says he has a boyfriend but doesn't speak much about him other than she is happy.

She has taken an interest in me and is divorced too. Out of the blue she has introduced me to a couple of girls (one was a very hot 26 y.o.) that I briefly dated but didn't work out. She is always concerned about my well being and how I'm coping with divorce and dating. She says I'm his friend.

During class she is always next to me and is very touchy, but keeps touching my arms and my chest when we talk after class.

She has asked me out for coffee a couple of times and I've always been vague about setting a date and finally said we should go this week...she said thursday or friday.

Yesterday she asked for a ride home (we live nearby) and when we were in the car I can tell she wasn't as comfortable as she normally seems. We talked about my ex-wife and a girl I'm seeing...she kept asking.

The gym is within walking distance and I told her I normally walk home...she said she loves walking but is afraid of going alone at night and said she would like it very much if I walked her home sometimes. She knows I'm into cycling and mentioned she likes it also

When we finally got to her house we kept talking in the car for a good 20 minutes. She said she really wants to go out for coffee but she's busy this week and we should reschedule for the next.

I don't know how I should go about it (and if there is real interest on her part) or just see it as a nice friendship with a woman who is truly concerned about myself.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Or simply an AW? In my opinion there is no friendship among us and women! So I would say no, it's not a friend thing! She might be interested, Attention whoring or for some reason "uses you to make her good act of the day"? (I'm not sure if that's good English usage). Anyway, she seems to try a lot to make you feel nice but not by pleasing you herself, like she couldn't make it this week or she meets you to her friends! The only solution I see if you really want to find out is to go for it! I know it will be akward if she's not interested about the classes and staff, but it's the only way to be certain! We can't be sure and you can't be sure unless you try something! There are IOI but AWs also IOI a guy a lot!
 

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Whatever you do just "let things happen" which means "make them happen yourself" but make it looks as if that was a coincidence.

This will help her to rationalize what the two of you are doing without feeling bad (a slvt), most of all when she throw those baits she is actually giving you an opportunity to take leadership and create a situation.

When she suggest to do something, try to do the following step to create that situation, if she accepts and show enthusiasm keep escalating while if she find some excuses you can easily tell it was not real interest.

However I suggest you to escalate slowly so it will be easier for you to step back since that class is something you like and you dont wanna lose it.
 

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A 46-year-old can't possibly be higher than HB5. I'm guessing she has several other knocks that rank her way lower than even that. Besides, her marriage market value is zero because she can't have children anymore. She's only good as a pump 'n dump to men over 55.

She's all touchy feely with you in class, and gets into a car with you to leave, for the same reason she keeps asking about other women in your life. She wants an ego boost. Her self esteem is sagging along with her breasts. She wants the hotter, younger women around to see you with her. She's practically begging you to lie, and say you aren't seeing any women now, and start kissing her. Your fake, phony "HB 8.5-9" attraction to her feeds her ego, but accomplishes nothing for you. Ignore the old skank and go for 22-year-olds.
 

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Down Low said:
A 46-year-old can't possibly be higher than HB5. I'm guessing she has several other knocks that rank her way lower than even that. Besides, her marriage market value is zero because she can't have children anymore. She's only good as a pump 'n dump to men over 55.

She's all touchy feely with you in class, and gets into a car with you to leave, for the same reason she keeps asking about other women in your life. She wants an ego boost. Her self esteem is sagging along with her breasts. She wants the hotter, younger women around to see you with her. She's practically begging you to lie, and say you aren't seeing any women now, and start kissing her. Your fake, phony "HB 8.5-9" attraction to her feeds her ego, but accomplishes nothing for you. Ignore the old skank and go for 22-year-olds.
Lmao or if she that attractive to you, just fuk her
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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You all make valid points here.

She's not an attention ***** and definitely likes to make her good act of the day...but this has gone on for too long. She gives a lot in the way of being concerned with my well being and asks little to nothing in return (yet).

She has always said there are tons of women (even like her) and men like me are scarce and that's why she's set me up on dates with chicks (friends of her daughter and family). She says she feels a good "vibe" between us (yoga teacher speak).

She is touchy with other people, but not as much as she's with me. And this has certainly increased steadily.

She's very interested about women in my life as well as goals I have set for myself (professionally and in sports). Recently I did a double century on my road bike and although she was away for vacation, she asked me to text her and send pictures (she did reply congratulating me). She always asks me to text her during the week...and I don't. I text minimally but she always replies with smiley faces and kisses.

Believe me she is hot...younger women have commented about how nice her body is. She has a great personality and everybody loves her.

It's nice to have her around as a friend...but I'd really like to see if there's more
 

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h_amati said:
You all make valid points here.

She's not an attention ***** and definitely likes to make her good act of the day...but this has gone on for too long. She gives a lot in the way of being concerned with my well being and asks little to nothing in return (yet).

She has always said there are tons of women and men like me are scarce and that's why she's set me up on dates with chicks (friends of her daughter and family). She says she feels a good "vibe" between us (yoga teacher speak).

She is touchy with other people, but not as much as she's with me. And this has certainly increased steadily.

She's very interested about women in my life. Recently I did a double century on my road bike and although she was away for vacation, she asked for me to text her and send pictures (she did reply congratulating me).

Believe me she is hot...younger women have commented about how nice her body is. She has a great personality and everybody loves her.

It's nice to have her around as a friend...but I'd really like to see if there's more
Imma say this again lol "If shes that attractive to you just fuk her"
 

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If you've known her more than 60 days and you're normally getting in "doggy" positions in leotards and haven't turned her on by now, it's over.
 

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Knowing how women in general behave, it is hard to believe she doesn't want anything from me (other than validation...being the age she is) and gives more than she takes. I guess only time will tell.

In the meantime, if she keeps setting me up on dates and is genuinely worried I do good...guess I'll stick around.

Or is my thinking a mistake?
 

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h_amati said:
Knowing how women in general behave, it is hard to believe she doesn't want anything from me (other than validation...being the age she is) and gives more than she takes. I guess only time will tell.

In the meantime, if she keeps setting me up on dates and is genuinely worried I do good...guess I'll stick around.

Or is my thinking a mistake?
If youre being set up on dates by a woman, without asking for them, youre doing well dude. Take the dates, the girls are gonna be there on a recommendation that you are awesome! ( or a nice guy). either way, youre being passed pvssy:D
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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If all goes well and you get her to cheat while she still has a BF, then dont pursue her for a LTR
 

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it really doesnt matter what she wants. or lets say trying to figure that out is useless. The only thing that matters is what YOU want, that is hard enough. THEN you find out whether she is on the same page with you on that or not.

On the other hand if she wants something from you, sooner or later you will find out anyways. Until then relax and take what is given to you.
 

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I thought she was being nice and truly helping me...until she started asking me out for coffee
 

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She wants attention, an ego boost, and someone she can control. A beta male, in other words.

Stop overanalyzing sh*t. You'll only hurt yourself. If you wait too late to escalate, she'll send you to masturbate. Keep that in mind and make a goddamn move! Even though she probably gets dry when she sees you, just go for it. Judge nismo's orders.

Case closed.
 

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Saw my yoga teacher yesterday and decided to do a little test. Since her class is getting slow now (a lot of begginers), I basically told her the new people are dragging me down and I need something more energetic. I told her I'm starting to feel down because of some trouble with a girl.

She tried convincing me to stay in her class. I told her that I really enjoyed her class, and the many times it was just one on one it was great. After 10 minutes of this, I looked into her eyes and said...I'm leaving for a while...until this streak passes. Her reaction surprised me...she was livid.

She immediately said she appreciates me being in her class and that she will welcome me with open arms when I decide to come back.

After a moment of silence, with a troubled look on her face, she told me to call her tomorrow so we can see each other and talk. I just said OK.

We turned around and as she started walking...she suddenly said (as if trying to salvage what's left)...I love you Hugo. I stared at her and said...me too, and walked away.

Her emotional reaction surprised me...I thought she was just my yoga teacher and was being nice to me.

So should I call her? or was this her reaction to not having control anymore?
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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