"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

HELP! I did my first approach today and...

evolvingnerd

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Jun 17, 2004
Messages
257
Reaction score
0
Location
Brisbane, Australia
some of you may remember i was talking about approaching a chick from uni
ytesterday i did!!! (felt like i ripped my own guts out at the time, but meh)

now it was no where near as smooth or suave as i had imagined it to be
for some reason, i didn't introduce myself, but rather pretended to already know her (i kinda had been building up an image of her in my mind) and just started talkin a bit before the lecture
then at the end of the lecture said, btw my name is freddie

anyhoo
tomorrow, i know (after today's convo) that we havea couple of classes together... i never knew we had so many classes together

what do i do????
no fvck buddy business
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

Dapper Swindler

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Aug 25, 2004
Messages
342
Reaction score
0
Age
45
Excellent work. Now don't think too much about this girl and go talk to another chick immediately!
 

evolvingnerd

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Jun 17, 2004
Messages
257
Reaction score
0
Location
Brisbane, Australia
i'm not concerned (currentyl) with making lots of female friends and the like
however, i am quite sure she's a shy quiet girl
she's also an international student from america, and to the best of my knowledge, without many friends

what should i do so i do'nt come on too strong, or....
at the end of the day, i just want a good friend (she's in my course btw and so we have almost similar subjects the whole way through)
 

DiSt0rTi0n_07

Don Juan
Joined
Jul 8, 2004
Messages
123
Reaction score
0
Location
Canada
Go talk to other women like Dapper said. You are less likely to become infatuated and/or desperate if you go and talk with other women.

Don't stress... In the words of crazykid, JUST RELAX!!!

If you want to be friends with her, treat her like you would treat your guy buddies. Act like a friend. Do you buy food for your buddies when you go out? Do you tell them they look pretty?:eek: Do you use alot of kino?:eek: :eek:

Of course the rules are slightly different with female friends :p
 

squirrels

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 15, 2003
Messages
6,620
Reaction score
186
Age
47
Location
A universe...where heartbreak and sadness have bee
Don't EXPECT it to come easy the first time you engage a girl with romantic intent. This is something that's new to you. It's like the first time you play football, you're gonna take a couple of hits before you really beef up and get comfortable with the techniques. Then YOU'LL be laying down the hits.

Just enjoy it...and pimp your scars like they were trophies. :D
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

Read more...

Microphone Fiend

Master Don Juan
Joined
May 30, 2003
Messages
2,300
Reaction score
17
Location
Where I be at
you came off better than you think, you're supposed to act like you know her to gain rapport. Just next time you see her, don't act like you've been thinking about her non-stop off of a brief interaction
 

Hollowpoint

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 28, 2004
Messages
593
Reaction score
0
I'd also recommend not mentioning that you've noticed her in several of your classes.

Be like 'Oh I gotta run, I have *** next.' And if she is interested she'll say she has the same thing.

Or meet her in another class and accuse her of following you around.
 

evolvingnerd

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Jun 17, 2004
Messages
257
Reaction score
0
Location
Brisbane, Australia
hmmm
dilemma guys
now tomorow i'm approaching a nwe chick
(that's not the prob - just do'nt wanna hear abunch of oneitis stuff)

this chick as far as i know always sits on her own, which gives me a great opportunity (my first time remember) to get close to her
however, she's short sighted ans sits reasonably down front, whereas my friends are usually middle to back
what to do?
i know i shouldn't foresake my friends for a girl, but then how do i meet up with her
i think with shy girls u have to work your way up to meeting em outside of classes right?
so ideas?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

Read more...

squirrels

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 15, 2003
Messages
6,620
Reaction score
186
Age
47
Location
A universe...where heartbreak and sadness have bee
BTW, if you're going to give your name, usually it's best to wait until she asks for it. If she doesn't, make sure you introduce it at a high point in the conversation (when she's laughing or otherwise fascinated). It associates your name with a high feeling. If you wait for an awkward pause to say "By the way, my name is ....." then it comes off as filler. Your name isn't "By the way." That's possibly the most important piece of information she'll ever get in her life. :D
 

evolvingnerd

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Jun 17, 2004
Messages
257
Reaction score
0
Location
Brisbane, Australia
oooh
i hope i remember that squirrels
but i fear i'll just use it as filler

another side quetsion:
a friend of mine, (some of u may remember) is largley AFC and i wanted to introoduce him into the world of DJing, without leading him to this site, just yet anyway
do you think it's prudent i tell him of my first approach/
or would it appear conceited, and or bragging

i'd genuinely like to help him without compromising myself
 

wolfie

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Sep 27, 2003
Messages
298
Reaction score
1
Depends how open minded and eager to learn he is. Most people will react with anger, disbelief and argument if you try to give them advice on 'how to get women', especially when it's drawn from places like this; in their minds, you telling them this suggests that they have a problem getting women and they can see this as insulting.
Plus you don't have a wealth of experience and knowledge to impress anything upon him, so he's not likely to listen to you.
It's far better to become a skilled PUA first, then once he starts to look up to you because you are PROVING your skills in front of his eyes, you can instruct him.
 

SealTeamSix

Don Juan
Joined
Jul 16, 2004
Messages
105
Reaction score
0
Ok...
This is difficult but yet highly effective.

1. Never give out your name. Make her to ask your name. Think about it. She does not even want to know your name means she does not even wanna know you. After giving out your name then you ask her name..

2. If you have same class with her, then sit beside her during class. when you do, write some funny shyt on a piece of paper and make her to read. Do some note exchage. Do it with complete silence. When the class is done, just say later with smile and take off. Next time u see her do the same. This will build mytery and she will be so curious about u.
 

SealTeamSix

Don Juan
Joined
Jul 16, 2004
Messages
105
Reaction score
0
Originally posted by evolvingnerd
oooh
i hope i remember that squirrels
but i fear i'll just use it as filler

another side quetsion:
a friend of mine, (some of u may remember) is largley AFC and i wanted to introoduce him into the world of DJing, without leading him to this site, just yet anyway
do you think it's prudent i tell him of my first approach/
or would it appear conceited, and or bragging

i'd genuinely like to help him without compromising myself
u and ur friend should read David DeAngelo's Double your Dating.
As much as I disagree with lot of things DD say, but it does explains woman's mind pretty well.

Once u understand the basic logic behind this read some posts by the masters such as mystery, tyler durren, etc ..

apply it analyze it, then u are on your way to PUA.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

Read more...

Top