"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Help!! I can only make a move when I'm drinking.

ethnomethodologist

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You need to shock your system...

Run your game on a few ugly girls, go though the bootcamp, get your mind used to the fact. Than quit drinking, AND masturbating, your body and mind will I believe, FORCE you to approach women while sober ;)
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Rudy_TubeSteak

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Right, of all my past hook ups, i just realised that it all started when I was drunk then made a move by going in for a kiss or a f*ck.

That means all my one night stands, flings, relationships etc have all been initiated with a drunken incident (which aren't all that bad lol) but its starting to make a pattern. I'm really concerned about developing a pattern of relying on alcohol for confidence.

Now I believe I can attract most girls but to escalate to higher level I sh*t myself and act all p*ssy. Now I dont really wanna walk around half p*ssed just so I can go for it (it would be fun) but it would be damaging the DJ thing.

Now I had a new years situation (a previous post) where I could have had a nice moment, but I was sober and if I was drinking then no doubt I could've had the girl. Liquid courage huh?

The scary part is that when I'm drinking I have pretty much 100% success rate. When I'm sober the champion AFC shines out of me and my success rate drops or is nearly zilch.

I'm kinda scared because all the male side of my family are all alcholics lol. I don't want to get my courage out of a bottle. But I rarely drink but when I do its like a Dr Jekyll and Mr. Hyde ( a very sexy, charming Mr Hyde)

Anyone else have this issue? Maybe its a psychological issue someone can relate to.

(Hmm the ordering of the post is mucked up...this is the FIRST post)
 

vorbis

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I'm the same, but then again the entire irish night scene revolves around drink. To go clubbing sober in Ireland would be seen as bizarre.
 

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I think everyone is more confident when they drink what you need is something else you can get confidence from.

I used to go boxing but when i started work in august i was working 7am-7pm 6 days a week so i had to stop as the sessions were at 5pm, I'm not working now till february so I'm quitting drinking (or at least excessive drinking, maybe 1 or 2 drinks a night) and starting boxing again.
When i used to box i found that i didn't need drink because i was that confident with myself that i couldn't care what anybody thought of me. Hell i thought i was THE MAN. whereas now if i dont drink i'm still pretty confident, just not as much as i was.

I'm not an expert and this is only a theory, it could work with going to the gym or something similair but try to find a substitue for it, plus you'll feel a whole lot better, and stay quick witted ;)

gd luck
 

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The primary reason it works because you cannot think yourself out of a set. When you see a girl drunk you go for it, and by the time reasonable thinking comes in like telling yourself she is going to blow you off its too late your in the set.

But if you dont drink your thinking is faster and therefore psych yourself out of a set. So, 3 sec rule is the best policy
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Don Juanabbe

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I have stuggled with this in the past, and the bottom line is thinking too much. Don't talk to her expecting that you are going to get anything. Don't go into the mindset that you are trying to seduce her at first.

What I do is pretend that I'm talking to a guy at first. Or that I am best man at a wedding and that I am obliged to talk to this person. Then once you are comfortable enough, you won't be as tense.

Believe me though, you are far from alone. Social situations alot of the time involve a drink or two, and there's nothing wrong with that as long as you aren't getting shyt-faced all the time.
 

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running game on ugly girls is a good idea.

especially if you approach the ugly girl in the group. all the sudden the hot attention needers are all over you. works EVERY SINGLE TIME.
 

Rudy_TubeSteak

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Lol guess what I drank on my night off and managed to kiss 2 barmaids...man it just came too easily then...dutch courage

Problem is, theyre both friends and I'm in soooo much trouble over it now.
 
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