Help getting started?

[Red Monk]

Hey everyone,I'm new to the game(or at least trying to actually trying to play the game)
I'm sort of on an info overload,bought a ton of books,scoured youtube,google etc.
THEN I arrived here....
Read through some articles and now I'm hooked,I want to be a Don Juan...
Most importantly I Want to be a me while playing the game. I don't want to "peacock" or carry silly props around to attract women but there is so much material and info.out there it's just left me confused and hurt my game more than when I was a blind AFC.

Anyways I downloaded the bible.and all the recommended articles,but where the hell do I begin?!?

There's a boot camp dload and a 5 week reading guide in a seperate dload...
I would appreciate.any and all guidence..

One AFC,
MONK

PS: forgive my grammar and spelling,pc broke so I'm on a tablet

 

[Gunner26]

First off what are you looking to achieve? Do you want to be better with women, better at talking to people? Really ask yourself that question.

Second it's mainly just a mind-set, you've just got to get the confidence to really shine and believe in what you read, and then decide for yourself what information works best for you, and which info you disregard.

Thirdly you've just got to get out there and practice simple as.

Now where to start?

Depends on your current confidence level I suppose. I think the DJ Bootcamp starts off with just getting you to make eye contact with people and say Hi, or maybe smile, either will do. It's a great place to start so I recommend it, as you get more comfortable you progress into small talk, then flirting etc...

In regards to reading, just take your time, read one article at a time and let it sink in, then go out and practice what that article preaches, if it works for you great, if not, move onto the next. Try not to incorporate everything you read into your life at once, it's too much and you won't improve. Take it slow. Just practice every chance you get.

Good luck

Gunner

 

[Serenity]

When it comes to reading the DJ Bible and especially Book of Pook, it may hurt and it may confuse you further. It didn't make much sense the first time I read it, but with time and experience my perspective changed. If you don't understand right away, don't obsess about it. You have to get out, take action, reflect on your actions and attempt to see the big picture.

This is a slow and possibly painful process, but absolutely worth it.

 

[Harry Wilmington]

Hey, welcome to the forum!

If you're looking for good ways to get started, I recommend googling David DeAngelo and Doc Love - those two were major influences on me being able to go from having NO game to... well, I still don't have game, but I'm able to get girls without it

Also, click on the link below to listen to my podcast - I do a podcast a day (currently at 86 and counting) and I've been told by people on here that it's really helped them out as it pertains to learning what NOT to do when trying to get women. Hope this helps, and welcome!

 

[Lotus Effect]

Hey, welcome to the forum!

If you're looking for good ways to get started, I recommend googling David DeAngelo and Doc Love - those two were major influences on me being able to go from having NO game to... well, I still don't have game, but I'm able to get girls without it

Also, click on the link below to listen to my podcast - I do a podcast a day (currently at 86 and counting) and I've been told by people on here that it's really helped them out as it pertains to learning what NOT to do when trying to get women. Hope this helps, and welcome!

True dat about David D. I'm not quite a doc love fan, but still, may be also good!

But I got to love the merchan up there man! hahaha :crackup:

Lol. Just kidding! I've been listening to of your podcasts. You do got your sh*t together. There is real good info!

 

[Red Monk]

Thanks you guys for the guidance...
I'm not shy,and I'm not afraid to speak to anyone (I'd talk to a tree if the tree would talk back)lol
however,I would like to learn to from A-Z how to become a Don Juan..
My goal (as ashamed as I am to admit) is to lose my virginity.. :X
Right now I have little to no experience walking up to women and gaming them.
Like I said I can talk to them and it's not bad conversation BUT it's never gotten me laid.haha

 

[Red Monk]

Hey, welcome to the forum!

If you're looking for good ways to get started, I recommend googling David DeAngelo and Doc Love - those two were major influences on me being able to go from having NO game to... well, I still don't have game, but I'm able to get girls without it

Also, click on the link below to listen to my podcast - I do a podcast a day (currently at 86 and counting) and I've been told by people on here that it's really helped them out as it pertains to learning what NOT to do when trying to get women. Hope this helps, and welcome!

Awesome,anything in particular by David D I should look into?
And also I don't see a link to the podcast..? Am I overlooking it?

 

[Gunner26]

Ahhhh man you're in exactly the same position as I was a year or so ago.

I realised a while back that my virginity really is no big deal, and it's not, if people go around telling you you're useless for still having your V, then they're not the type of people I'd want to associate with. The problem I made was letting everyone know I'm a virgin, wrong move, as it can kill attraction. So don't do that haha.

I also realised that while I could talk to women, I couldn't really flirt with them all that well. So I practiced on everyone, and I'm getting much better, I'm already a massively confident guy, and like you I can TALK to anyone, but simply talking doesn't get you laid.

The trick I've found is just to be a little more forward and cheeky, playful even, and alot of eye contact.

Practice on everyone, any female you speak to. You might start out like me feeling almost awkward when saying it, but trust me, soon it will just be a part of you. That's when the fun starts to happen, even though I'm not there yet, I know it's coming, and that's the mindset you want.

But to feel like a true DJ, it's not about the women. Yes I am teaching myself to flirt with them and have a bit more fun, however they are not the focus of my life. They do not come before my work and sport, or my hobbies. On a night out, my intention is to have a good time, not to pick up chicks, and when you can accept that and have a great time being you regardless of if there are chicks involved you will find that women naturally come into your life.

It takes a while to get to that level where you aren't outcome dependant on women, it's taken me a good few years to really nail the mindset, and now I believe I'm starting to see results trickle in, the same will happen for you.

Gunner

 

[Desdinova]

The most important thing you can do is get out in the field and try all these new ideas that you're learning about. You need to go outside your comfort zone to find out what works and what doesn't. The best guys are the ones who get out there and try stuff to see what the response is. You may not get laid immediately, but you'll gain the tools to get you there, and consistently get it after you lose your virginity.

Keep the things that work, dump the things that don't. Peacocking doesn't work for me, so I dumped it.

 

[Red Monk]

Ahhhh man you're in exactly the same position as I was a year or so ago.

I realised a while back that my virginity really is no big deal, and it's not, if people go around telling you you're useless for still having your V, then they're not the type of people I'd want to associate with. The problem I made was letting everyone know I'm a virgin, wrong move, as it can kill attraction. So don't do that haha.

I also realised that while I could talk to women, I couldn't really flirt with them all that well. So I practiced on everyone, and I'm getting much better, I'm already a massively confident guy, and like you I can TALK to anyone, but simply talking doesn't get you laid.

The trick I've found is just to be a little more forward and cheeky, playful even, and alot of eye contact.

Practice on everyone, any female you speak to. You might start out like me feeling almost awkward when saying it, but trust me, soon it will just be a part of you. That's when the fun starts to happen, even though I'm not there yet, I know it's coming, and that's the mindset you want.

But to feel like a true DJ, it's not about the women. Yes I am teaching myself to flirt with them and have a bit more fun, however they are not the focus of my life. They do not come before my work and sport, or my hobbies. On a night out, my intention is to have a good time, not to pick up chicks, and when you can accept that and have a great time being you regardless of if there are chicks involved you will find that women naturally come into your life.

It takes a while to get to that level where you aren't outcome dependant on women, it's taken me a good few years to really nail the mindset, and now I believe I'm starting to see results trickle in, the same will happen for you.

Gunner

I appreciate the guidance,it's refreshing to know there are other people in the same boat..and no one knows I still have the V card..lol
The idea of not worrying about the outcome of any interaction seems amazing,you just DO things and enjoy the interaction...I can't wait to get to that point.
I didn't realize how much calibration it takes to become a Don,but all the work will make it worth while!
And let me ask you,did.you start with the DJ Bible or some David D stuff....where did you begin the journey?

 

[Red Monk]

Thanks Desdinova your advice your totally right!

Harry Wilmington: I found your podcast,can't wait to check it out.

 

[Gunner26]

You'd be surprised how many people are in the boat. It's a lot more than you'd imagine, but like you, they keep it quiet.

Not worrying about the outcome is a great feeling, but obviously it needs to be tailored to the situation. There are times, not specifically with girls, where you will need to focus on the outcome, such as a job interview haha.

I started just reading articles from the DJ Bible, I've never read anything else by anyone. For me the DJ Bible was enough to get me started, the rest I've tried to figure out myself, with a bit of help from the posters on this board, and mates who are naturals with women.

Gunner

 

[Red Monk]

Hah yeah definitely a time and place for outcome expectations...
I think I will ditch my other resources for now and just focus on the DJ Bible...maybe start with the DJ boot camp and work from the ground up,seems like the most efficient way to get myself on the right track...
Feels like all I did was just screw myself by jumping from one resource.to another and now I'm paying for it by struggling with information overload..

 

[HyperAnalyze]

Start with the Bible then start your first boot camp. I recommend at least 10 approaches a day. Work on general conversation flow and become natural at approaching.

Next start to incorporate all of the techniques, kino, push pull, ****y funny, flirting etc.

For every 1 hour of material reading or watching should yield three hours field experience.

Field experience is king. Get reference points as to what you are doing right. Always focus on the positive. Don't worry about the outcome so much.

 

[Red Monk]

Start with the Bible then start your first boot camp. I recommend at least 10 approaches a day. Work on general conversation flow and become natural at approaching.

Next start to incorporate all of the techniques, kino, push pull, ****y funny, flirting etc.

For every 1 hour of material reading or watching should yield three hours field experience.

Field experience is king. Get reference points as to what you are doing right. Always focus on the positive. Don't worry about the outcome so much.

Thank you,
2 questions: how will I know the reference points I'm doing right?
Also when you say every one hour of reading and watching yield 3 hours of field experience,do you mean for everyone our of info I absorb practice in field for three hours or it's just equivalent to it?

Thanks
MONK

 

[crossedup]

Hi Red Monk!

Many guys lie about their virginity. I personally have not had sex in two years, but I am definitely giving away the illusion that I have been sexing. Nice car, good job, strong family life, I just don't get out much anymore because my hours at work suck. From experience within my own social circle, I can tell you that guys will do whatever it takes to avoid the truth with this matter. It may seem like other guys are having better luck than you...many are, but many are not. I know are many guys who have not had a gf in over three years and have not been laid in a long time, and I am 23.

Do not use this as an excuse to not try. I have done that for too long and am finally taking my improvement seriously by shifting my thoughts away from money and women (which ultimately results in unhappiness and being outcome dependent), and focusing much more on important things like my hobbies, family, and helping others.