"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Help escalating in the seduction process.

XTR

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OK, my story.
I arrived home 30 min ago somewhat frustrated.
I may not be a very known member here, I'm trying to understand the principles of seduction and tonight would have been an excellent oportunity to apply the theory and put it into practice, but somehow I hit a sticking point or something in a way I don't know to escalate... To introduce myself, you could say I'm an AFC, who never had a girlfriend, never had kiss a girl I like (does kissing a hooker counts?), and has ****ed up many times because of the neediness, wussy behaviour

So I was invited by a uni classmate to a social gathering at his house. There were 2 female cousins of him (both sisters, good looking). At first I saluted everyone there also the girls. I started chatting with my common friends ignoring the girls who were with a guy and another classmate.

Since the moment I walked and entered the patio I noticed one girl was looking at me constantly, but I didn't make eye contact until the moment I started talking to them along with 2 male friends from college.

The girl that was into me (she, even before I approached her, her sister had to literally turn her head back to other place because it was pointing directly at me!) was constantly sending IOI's, saying, "You have a cool watch", or "hey, nice knife" in a way to engage a conversation.
She even sat closer to me and from time to time grabbed my arm or touched my leg.

The thing is that I don't know how to escalate from attraction to the next level. In the venue, maybe was not possible to isolate the target: Her mom was inside the house, and she told me her mom was checking on her every time she saw her daughter.

I may have had a number close, but at this stage my mind do not process what I need to do next.

So, she left along with her sister and mom and me having the feeling of not taking the shot to ask for her number, mail, etc.

So what do you guys think I should work on. I think an algorithmic pamplet with the stages of seduction.

Man, I tell you, the girl at least threw more than 5 IOI's, maybe topping 10, but I was oblivious :wave:
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

ManOfMystery

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dont be such a wuss and talk to her.

do you really need her to hand you everything on a silver platter?

you have to do some of the work yourself, and you had a perfect situation.

next time:

talk => connect => number close => hangout again =>do whatever you want after, may it be sex, or more dating
 
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