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Help! - Club Dance Floor Game

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So for someone who has been around a while here, this sounds like a basic question. But unfortunately I did/do not know what to do.

So I was at this club and I was on the dance floor with a friend, just kind of chilling, vibing to the music... Well I notice to the right of me there's like a set of 4 girls dancing together. So I basically slowly try to turn my attention towards this one tall blonde in the group..... Anyway before I even get in good position to start dancing with her.... her friend (who is also cute as hell) dances towards me and starts grinding on me..... I grabbed her hand.. pulled her close, spun her a few times.. and we were basically dancing...

Now the problem is I really was taken off guard here and I really wasn't drinking or anything. I sort of tried to go for the make-out... but she kept spinning and sort of teasing me possibly.. but still dancing.... Now clearly my game wasn't on... and I knew eventually she would stop dancing with me as I really was kind of forcing myself to dance. And well thats eventually what she did.. and then I just went back to my friends...

But here's my question..... what was I supposed to do here???

Should I have

1.) Tried to talk in her ear, ask her for her name, get her number and leave
2.) Ask her if she wants to have a drink and talk more
3.) Continue dancing with her... then re-approach her later
4.) Dance with her and try to get a make-out (I think with her friends all behind her this was probably unlikely)

It just sucks because I had this attractive girl basically come up to me, but I didn't know how to handle the situation.
 

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play along with it and escalate see where it went, chances are she was after the grind for the funattention of it, BUT if she was somewhat into you she would have respended favourably...

if she was responding favourably isolate her away from her friends in the club and then do some small-chat/make out ...etc...

if i was in your position i would have hoped my friends would have been aware of what going on around in the environment and came over to do some sort of dancefloor winging with the group - but most firends are oblivious... so this is unlikely !

some times girls will stick in their little packs, and the mother hen/c0ck blockers of the group (e.g. the fatties) will attempt to blcok you, so you may sometimes have to open the group as well, get them on your side!
of ourse this is much easier with some guy friends who can jump in and wing for you if they see whats happening (even a little bit!)

maybe you need to think of some ****y and funny canned lines you can use on girls in the dance floor as openers to break the ice... OR get good at contextual natural game...
 

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Sounds too good to be true, and it probably was. Half (probably more) of the girls on the dancefloor are out for attention. They get a kick from rejecting guys, that is their purpose.

Theres 2 stages in dancefloor game, approach and makeout. Approach is the moment you make it clear that your making a move on the specific girl. The makeout is the next move after probably 30 seconds in my experience.

Heres the thing though, most rejections come from stage 1, when you make the move. If she responds positive to your approach, you know it's basically on. Its almost impossible to tell how she will respond until you make your move into her, but if she's up for it then she tends to just take over at that point.

The odd case where you get rejected after successfuly dancing 1 on 1, at the point of going for kiss, is the attention slut. For all their sluttiness and bichiness, girls that are into you will not make the first move ever. You need to always take the risk and approach, much like normal game. A girl into you can be hard to spot but an attention ho is easy.

Pretty much my knowledge that i gathered over the past few months. Iv been hitting dancefloor game ever since i broke up from LTR. Have to say it can be very hit and miss, and its very stacked against us men. Girls i wouldnt even talk to on the street can act like beauty queens. Also, its too loud to talk, save the talking for after you isolate her from the dancefloor after a successful pull.
 

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Very interesting. So kingsam says I should try and isolate and Ease you think I should have gone for the makeout.

To tell you the truth, I never was under the impression that chicks that dance with you want to be kissed... this girl actually approached me though... I sort of went for the kiss but I was hesitant and clearly not into dancing and she probably sensed this...

Regarding isolation.... this would require me to talk to her... what the hell do say "hey lets go sit down so we can hook up...?
 

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Well in your case the girl that approached you was probably just up for attention and dancing with random guys. But you should make a move and get rejected so you know for sure. If you dont make a move then you leave empty handed.

Isolating her is another thing, but personally i wouldnt try to isolate a girl that i havent yet pulled. While grinding and twirling the natural thing to do if you like eachother is kiss. If you are still escalating and it gets too heavy for dancing, then at that point i'd drag her off the floor. Drag her off the floor early and i would have to think of interesting conversation, but after you makeout with her then it's a lot easier to talk.
 

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After Judge Nismo-4 reviewed your case, I am getting a vibe that you didn't confidently go for the kiss, let alone ask for the #.

As for your options:

Should I have

1.) Tried to talk in her ear, ask her for her name, get her number and leave

This might have been your best bet. The iron was hot if she came up to you and remember, hot iron cools off eventually (in other words, her IL gradually drops.) But you have to take action. Don't wait for her.

2.) Ask her if she wants to have a drink and talk more

Offering to buy a woman a drink is a criminal offense. It comes with a fine of removed balls and 8 dollars. Don't buy women drinks in the club. Often times you don't know the girl. Take her home and make your own drinks, for a fraction of the price and in your own creative style. Most club women are after attention and free drinks, off of your money. Man the f**k up.

3.) Continue dancing with her... then re-approach her later

This is the crime of showing insecurity. Bring your courage and confidence with you when you make an approach the first time around. She might think you're uninterested if you come back a second time. You will not be charged with this offense.

4.) Dance with her and try to get a make-out (I think with her friends all behind her this was probably unlikely)

If she was really into you, she would've allowed it, no matter what her friends thought. Judge Nismo-4 danced with a girl and her friends didn't approve of me at all. Then out of nowhere, she locked lips with me and played swords, with our tongues! The point is, if you're confident, courageous, or in some cases, lucky, the friends barrier won't mean sh*t.

This should help you. Read my sig. Apply it. That's my ruling.

Case closed.
 

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Jayer said:
Very interesting. So kingsam says I should try and isolate and Ease you think I should have gone for the makeout.
the best thing about SS is the Sum of the responses gives you a much fuller answer

yes it is true you dont need to isolate always (in fact in can recal many times when i havent), but some times you do... it just depends on the exact situation!

dance floor game is acually very easy and its always fun to break those "chode circles" and AMOG them

one thing i gotta say, what kinda of aceivement is a random club make out...how many other men has she kissed that night (smoe chick kiss a lot of dudes in one night)? in many ways its another form of attention/validation for her
when i was younger it was a good acheivement, but now its a bit "meh"

i used to know a guy who almost without fail would pick up using dancefloor game, hed grind every chick in a club , one would always bite, hed bang her...!

Regarding isolation.... this would require me to talk to her... what the hell do say "hey lets go sit down so we can hook up...?
omg u gotta talk to a chick!
think of some C+ F openers you can use...you may have to try them out to see how good they are...i personally think the best level you can get to is where you dont need canned lines at all...
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another aticle on dancefloor game.....http://www.theattractionforums.com/discussion/123502-dance-floor-game-please-help.html
 

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Dancing with a girl at a night club is nothing. Quite frankly, If you don't get into a conversation with the girl you are dancing with, then you have little shot with her.

If a girl likes you, she'll talk to you and ask questions. If she is just dancing with you cause she thinks you're cute, well that's what happens most of the time.

If no conversation strikes up between the two of you, you still have a shot, but you have to rely on body language to feel her out.

But personally, a girl dancing with you, even if it's sexual, is just that: a drunk girl dancing with you
 

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I think thats the problem... I couldn't tell if she was drunk or not... she may have not been and just wanted to dance.... Thats why it seems like it really comes down to chance..

if she is buzzed and thought I was cute I could have gone for the make out...

If she wasn't and I tried that agressive move she might have been turned off... yet I could have got a quick number and hooked it up for later...

I guess with every post I put on here I'm looking for real world examples to prove what you are saying rather than theory.
 

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nismo-4 said:
After Judge Nismo-4 reviewed your case, I am getting a vibe that you didn't confidently go for the kiss, let alone ask for the #.

As for your options:

Should I have

1.) Tried to talk in her ear, ask her for her name, get her number and leave

This might have been your best bet. The iron was hot if she came up to you and remember, hot iron cools off eventually (in other words, her IL gradually drops.) But you have to take action. Don't wait for her.

2.) Ask her if she wants to have a drink and talk more



Offering to buy a woman a drink is a criminal offense. It comes with a fine of removed balls and 8 dollars. Don't buy women drinks in the club. Often times you don't know the girl. Take her home and make your own drinks, for a fraction of the price and in your own creative style. Most club women are after attention and free drinks, off of your money. Man the f**k up.

3.) Continue dancing with her... then re-approach her later

This is the crime of showing insecurity. Bring your courage and confidence with you when you make an approach the first time around. She might think you're uninterested if you come back a second time. You will not be charged with this offense.

4.) Dance with her and try to get a make-out (I think with her friends all behind her this was probably unlikely)

If she was really into you, she would've allowed it, no matter what her friends thought. Judge Nismo-4 danced with a girl and her friends didn't approve of me at all. Then out of nowhere, she locked lips with me and played swords, with our tongues! The point is, if you're confident, courageous, or in some cases, lucky, the friends barrier won't mean sh*t.

This should help you. Read my sig. Apply it. That's my ruling.

Case closed.

I sort of did try to go for it.. but not confidently... I mean I moved my mouth near hears hoping she'd bite but she didn't.... maybe I should have just went in forcefully...
 

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Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Jayer said:
I think thats the problem... I couldn't tell if she was drunk or not... she may have not been and just wanted to dance.... Thats why it seems like it really comes down to chance..

if she is buzzed and thought I was cute I could have gone for the make out...

If she wasn't and I tried that agressive move she might have been turned off... yet I could have got a quick number and hooked it up for later...

I guess with every post I put on here I'm looking for real world examples to prove what you are saying rather than theory.
I mean it is hard to know. I could say that I have danced with several women on a given night and didn't get any numbers. Maybe my game is weaker than I think it to be, I don't know.

But girls emit clues to whetherthey are interested in you. It is really hard from my experience to net a girl that you just started randomly dancing with. But clues that a girl is interested in you is that they are a little touchy, may grab your arm, hug you, touch you on your face. The next set of clues is that they give off some type of body language. Usually it is more than a few smiles, and the body language (as mentioned prior) is that they get a little touchy with you. I'm sure there are other resources for learning about body language.

You should try to talk to her, and if she asks you questions, or if she asks you to buy her a drink, or asks "do you want to get a drink," then that means she wants to get to know you better before she decides if she likes you.

I wouldn't try to be too agressive, and I wouldn't go for a kiss unless she initiates it. Giving off the impression that you want to kiss her is fine, but women can read body language much better than men, and so if she doesn't respond, then maybe she didn't read you correctly, or maybe she didn't want a kiss.

Yes, I realize this is all theoretical, but as far as practical goes, if a girl likes you then she may walk away from you, but generally if you find her again, she will smile or try to talk to you. If she isn't really touching or dancing close to you, she just wants to dance or she is a nice girl. If she walks away from you and you can't find her again, then you didn't get her interest. Of course don't feel bad about it, I think one weekend I danced with 15 girls or so, and all just walked away from me after a few minutes. It is also hard to kick game when you are sober.

But overall, it is a feel thing. Also, if she introduces you to a friend, and has all three of you to dance, she was only interested in dancing with you.

But overall, if you liked this girl, then try to talk to her. If you can't strike up a conversation and she leaves, it wasn't meant to be. You really are looking for the girl to ask you questions, touch you, or ask you to get or buy her a drink though.
 
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