"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Help: chik on diet and attention *****

Hoogie

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K Guys,

There is a chick at work who i wanna ask out but shes on a really strict diet. I usually ask chicks on first dates to coffee or ice cream cause its simple, can end quick or slow depending on how u guide it and its easier to ask a chick out this way i feel
- but this time i can't cause of the diet
Any other good ideas??

And shes attention *****..... shes giving me heaps and heaps of attention the last few days cause i dont give her too much attention back.
Do u think its best to dangle them more / cut to no attention for a while to build attention or dive in while she's still really keen.... im thinking for longetivity here.
Not sure cause i havent really been with too many attention seeking chicks.

Thanks!
P.S: may not be written too well... im very out of it - soz
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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fine.... everyone answer the flame posts or the posts that are already explained in the bible but not the real questions.
BAH!
 

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Hoogie

" im thinking for longetivity here."

Well you are already starting off on the wrong feet. You are analyzing women, you are trying to figure out a no-losing plan of action. You are trying to win in the Relationship caterogory, you are trying to "not mess it up."

You are basically setting yourself up for failure.

If she accepts you, you will be used, cheated on, and abused.

You need to ONLY focus on winning in the fvck category, and you do that by BEING VERY SEXUAL.

What the fvck is all this planning shyt? All these theories and shyt?

Up your sexuality, up your sexual flow, and lead her to an isolated spot and fvck her.

Me personally, I don't like fvcking the chicks I work with, but you can if you wish.

Don't even FOCUS on the relationship part dude. How do you even know you like this chick? How do you even know she likes you?

A chick will fvck you and not liek you at all....just focus on busting a nvt dude. Up your sexual flow and go. And try to meet at least 5 different women a day.

Go read my Here's the Magic Pill thread in the Tips section.

Drop all these damn theories. They are made up, they are YOUR opinions, and it's just like a kid who can't sleep at night because he BELIEVES a boogeyman is coming to get him. Well....kid, you are the jackazz CREATING this boogeyman in your mind. Maybe if you eliminate this fantasy boogeyman from your mind, you will be able to sleep.

Women aren't a fvckin enemy, they are fvck partners, peple that help us nvt. We help them nvt, now....let's just nvt. We'll think about relationships later on, IF...it makes sense.
 

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hmmm.... thanks... i do agree with you when you say, "Well you are already starting off on the wrong feet. You are analyzing women, you are trying to figure out a no-losing plan of action. You are trying to win in the Relationship caterogory, you are trying to "not mess it up.""

But the rest i dont agree with, "They are made up, they are YOUR opinions, and it's just like a kid who can't sleep at night because he BELIEVES a boogeyman is coming to get him"
Thats not opinion dude... thats fear and lack of knowledge... opinions are important. YOUR opinions are important... otherwise everyone would all be the same, uninteresting clones.

And while i want more than a fvck i do agree that uping sexuality is a good idea.

So i guess i agree but also disagree... so thanks...

anyone with any ideas on the dating thing??
 

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Hoogie said:
K Guys,

There is a chick at work who i wanna ask out but shes on a really strict diet. I usually ask chicks on first dates to coffee or ice cream cause its simple, can end quick or slow depending on how u guide it and its easier to ask a chick out this way i feel
- but this time i can't cause of the diet
Any other good ideas??

And shes attention *****..... shes giving me heaps and heaps of attention the last few days cause i dont give her too much attention back.
Do u think its best to dangle them more / cut to no attention for a while to build attention or dive in while she's still really keen.... im thinking for longetivity here.
Not sure cause i havent really been with too many attention seeking chicks.

Thanks!
P.S: may not be written too well... im very out of it - soz
Attention Wh0re? And you are still with her? And you want to have relationship with her? Are you masochist or shrink? If she interacts only to your lack of interest...she is real AW...not only playing hard to get or whatever then run as hell.

Only reasonable think you can do with AW....to [email protected] love no emotions. And it is not that easy either. They are not after you only after your attention and they know if they give you too much they loose. Besides they are like that for a reason....major INSECURITY ISSUES....these girls play in porn, do heroin OR DONT F@CK AT ALL! Only with guys they dont care about and they will never see again (he saw her naked, he saw her fat....he has to go to exile)
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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