"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Help bring me up fellas. One iris killing me.

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First off I have been on this site for 6 years and appreciate everything I've learned from it and the people who have contributed.

So I'm 29 single living it up getting numbers breaking away from my crippling introverted ness. I meet this girl at a bar we have sex the first night (a sign). The connection was strong, but I would still be aloof and go out constantly, though I was very interested in her internally. This drove her mad and she was always asking if "I am dating other girls" and "what do you do when you go out". The sex was amazing and all the time bjs, various positions, just fing hot.

So she asked me one night to be her bf. I said yes and slowly things went down hill. She didn't want to go out anymore just netflix, she didn't shave, she would wear sweatpants, she said she didn't like bjs, she said we can't have sex without lube and to tone down the amount sex were having.

So I broke up with her, 3 weeks later drunk she contacts me and we start hooking up again. I'm not sure if I want to date her. So we go to a bar and she makes out with a dude, this devastates me. I go to her place and tell her that I have strong feelings for her and I don't want to just be friends. We start dating again for a week.

She goes to a wedding a makes out with her ex bf who has 2 kids and another on the way. She said she realizes she still has feelings for him and isn't ready for a relationship. No contact for 2 months. Made out with 5 girls since, sex with 2 5s.

Last night I see her at a bar she comes up we hug and talk for a bit. Looking hot a hell. Her mother hen drags her away. I sent her a message on facebook, "hey you have gotten better at beer pong" at 230 am.

I know this girl is no good and it's got me all depressed and sad and introverted. I am doing everything wrong but i can't break free.mI am sure she will contact me tonight.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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nmartinez12443

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I already know the mistakes.

1. Telling her my feelings
2. Allowing her to take the mans role of establishing a relationship
3. Tolerating her making out with a guy in front of me (the most disrespectful thing any girl has done to me)
4. Contacting her on Facebook last night.
5. It's oneitis not one iris dam autocorrrect
 

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6. wasting precious time and energy talking about her on a discussion forum when i should be doing something else.
 

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If she's making out with her exes in front of you, she's f**king them behind your back. Is one girl really worth all this trouble to you?
 

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6. wasting precious time and energy talking about her on a discussion forum when i should be doing something else.
To be honest typing all that made me feel better, I am going to go out later buddy, but I'm just in a bad state. Trying to get out of it man.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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nmartinez12443 said:
To be honest typing all that made me feel better, I am going to go out later buddy, but I'm just in a bad state. Trying to get out of it man.
We understand. We've all been there bro'. Although the less she is on your mind, the better.
 

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One iris killing me.
Perhaps you should go visit an eye doctor.

Obviously you shouldn't waste anymore effort on this chick. The only thing you can do is go no contact, fvck other women, and do things that you enjoy to get your mind off of her. You just need to be patient, proactive and wait for the addiction to fade.
 

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Wow. After 6 fuken years of reading stuff here and the dj bible and u still seem to haven't learn sh!tt.. smh

You are the one to blame.

Seems like your inner game is also unexistent.

This sh!t is sad.
 

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Jair213 said:
Wow. After 6 fuken years of reading stuff here and the dj bible and u still seem to haven't learn sh!tt.. smh

You are the one to blame.

Seems like your inner game is also unexistent.

This sh!t is sad.
Woah dude, give the guy props for realising his mistakes here. If it weren't for the fact that he's been here as long as he had he wouldn't know half the **** he knows.

We all have relapses mate, you seem to know where you went wrong and that you need to get out of this so you're taking the right steps though it's likely you keep thinking back to the times before any of this and living out of your memory. Don't. Go make new memories with other girls.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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nmartinez12443 said:
I already know the mistakes.

1. Telling her my feelings
gray area
2. Allowing her to take the mans role of establishing a relationship
Wrong. The girl is the one who asks the guy for the relationship.
3. Tolerating her making out with a guy in front of me (the most disrespectful thing any girl has done to me)
lol, yep
4. Contacting her on Facebook last night.
lol, yep again
5. It's oneitis not one iris dam autocorrrect

Your biggest mistake is not seeing the red flags that were probably all over the place when you first got with this girl. Remember you met her in the bar and she banged you on the first night. I'm sure you missed lots of other things.

This chick is no good at all. She's trash. Next.
 
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