Hidden-Hand
Don Juan
I already have a six pack and its boring me. What types of exercises would work my lower ab region to give it a more defined look??
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
But 8 packs are only accessible for the geneticly gifted
I am what you would term 'genetically gifted', so its not that. Infact you can see the outlining of the last two, but there is just too much fat down there and its covering them up. All I need is the right exercise to shred that fat and then, boom 8 pack party central lol. Thanks for the helpAmazing genetics
I think I already have the 'top two' that you are refering to. Perhaps I will post a picture or two of myself to help you guys decide wheither or not I can get this.blinkwatt101 said:Abs are made in the kitchen,I'd say only 20-40% of abs come from the gym. The '8-pack' you are referring to is not consisting of an extra set of abs near the bottom of the abdominal region,rather 2 tiny abs located along the top of the normal '6-pack' top two.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
:crackup: In the first picture I had just gotten done eating alot, thats where the bloatedness came from. And thanks, but what about that 8 pack?blinkwatt101 said:Dude you need to learn to control your stomach and bloating. You'd have a phenomenal physique for your age if you can keep your stomach flat.
Yeah I was going to do some tricep dips/pushups anyway. I like bodyweight exercises.(your biceps are too big for your frame,learn to develop your triceps for more proportionality)
Nothing is 'wrong' with how I look, I just want to look better. I will get no women looking how I do now (I need plastic sugery for my face) and No I dont have an 8 pack.The Message Boy said:Lol, dude what the hell is wrong with the way you look?? I would say you already got an 8-pack.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Haha I was joking about that 'not getting women', 'plastic sugery' partQuiksilver said:Dude you look fine, consider that you aren't ugly and that you just have Low Self Esteem instead.
I've never heard of some of those exercises but those bicycle crunches kill..I'll research the other ones and do them, thanksjocca said:Hey man, funny thing is were actually very similair. Here are a number of routines I've been testing out lately that I think are pretty good for all around ab building.
1.
4x
100 normal situps
75 bicycle situps
35 scizzor situps
25 leg raises
2mins, 1:30, 1 min breaks
2.
200 bicyle situps
400 normal situps
150 leg raises
200 twister situps
3.
150xScizors
200xBicycle folds
150xWeighted twists
3x5minsBridges
4.
100xWeighted leg raises
150Crunches
200xUpper body weighted situps
100xElbow to knee snaps
Other than that there is a program called shaolin abs in an Ebook you can find somewhere on the net for free and keep focusing on eating well and up the cardio a bit more. Good luck.
Thanks for the compliments. And I'm alot of things, but a fitness guru I am not...still uhh to get my 'physique' you have to work out hard, rest and hope that your genetics are awesome.The Message Boy said:Hidden Hand, screw that, how about you TELL ME how to get my physique to where you are right now??
**** lol, I've been upping my cardio because for the longest all I had was a four pack and the bottom part is flatten out, but I doubt my genes will allow me to ever look the way you loook right now.
Did somebody say this guy looked bloated? Lol, if that's bloated I'll take it anyday of the week.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.