"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Help after a poor performance

hondo928

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I tried searching on through the threads but couldn't really find what I'm looking for. Anyway I was hooking up with this girl last night and she really didn't seem to be enjoying the fingering at all, she was like barely moving and didn't make a sound. This is the first time this has ever happened to me, but it was the first time in a few months, I've done more than just made out with a girl (out of my own choice) and I'm not sure if I should say something to her or pretend like I have no idea. Also, when she got back to her dorm she put an away message up that said "ouch" lol, which I'm kinda assuming was to me. I don't usually perform poorly so this has never been an issue, and I'm not sure how to approach it so that I can get some another time. What do you guys think?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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drak_ool

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play it off like nothing wrong happened. Obviously don't bring it up to her next time you see her ("hey, so I was wondering, did you not enjoy the fingering last night or what happened? just checking, you know...") and keep gaming her like you did before. You must have been doing something right if you got that far with her.

Maybe she was not ready for it and she thought you took it too far, maybe you really didn't do a good job, either way if she is attracted to you, you'll get second chances.

Finally, how many hand jobs have you got from girls that you truly enjoyed? Most of the times it sucks, yet you still talk to the girl after if you really want to f.uck her, so there you go
 

hondo928

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That's a good point I actually refuse hjs because I think they are horrible most of the time.
 

TheBucketOfTruth

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If you've been really good with most other women, then it's probably her to some extent. Every woman is different, so what worked in the past for some may not have turned this girl on. I say don't even bring it up, but just go a little easier on her this time. If a girl is feeling like she's getting roughed up down there, sometimes it can take her head completely out of the game and she'll just shut off. It's her fault for not saying anything to you and expecting you to read her mind. Communication is key in all aspects of life, and this extends into the bedroom as well.
 
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